Under pressure, Trump orders FBI to investigate Kavanaugh amid sex misconduct allegations

Very good point. Even if Judge minimized what really happened in the retelling ( and he would have!), the seeds are still there that something bad and wrong had happened.

Judge sure as hell has a lot to answer for, if he allows Ford's story to remain believable. Judge can't let himself believe it happened, without asking himself why he did not stop it. That's the first question others have.

 

If this turns up nothing, Ford should be behind bars.

It's that simple.

 

Also, I dont hear Democrats praising him for the decision.

I was sure they'd be singing his praises for this... guess not.

 

If they can prove that she is lying as a part of a political hit job, I totally agree. However I think she is telling the truth here and Kavanaugh is lying. I also think that Ramirez is telling the truth. Kavanaugh repeatedly lied about his obvious drinking problem as a young man. He fits the profile of a blackout drunk to a tee. The way he acted at the hearing yesterday suggests that he still has some issues with booze. He acted like a big crybaby and was sarcastic, flippant, evasive and disrespectful throughout that hearing. He proved he was nothing more that an ultrapartisan political hack with a great legal mind. Definitely not the kind of character we need in a Supreme Court Justice. He really pulled down his pants and exposed himself yesterday afternoon.

 

Please present the evidence that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted or attempted to rape anybody?

And no, Ford's testimony is not evidence.

 

No one owns the FBI, regardless of what trumpettes believe.

 

I had zero problem with the way Kavanaugh conducted himself. Whether guilty or not, he deserved the same process that every other defendant goes through. He didn't get that. In essence, even if this went to an actual trial among other things I can say that my client has effectively been tried in the media(Thank you CNN, MSNBC among others for not holding barbs back.) Thus making prosecution tremendously difficult even without Ford's inconsistent testimony.(I think we can be fair and call it inconsistent.)

And if he's innocent,. the middle finger to those bastards is just deserved. In particular, **** that sexist bigoted crybaby Hirono. May her stomping result in losing the 2018 midterms.

 

What the actual ****?

You have to prove an actual crime before she ends up behind bars and "an investigation failing to find anything" is not a crime.

 

And you have zero evidence he did it. Zero. No place no time and every witness she named rebuts her claim.

Or is he guilty until proven innocent with you as well?

 

I don't praise people for doing something they should have done, refuse to do so, and did so after they are forced to do so.

 

The crime is perjury. She lied about being afraid of flying and under oath admitted it when she said she was a world traveler and flew to get to the hearing instead of driving.

 

I take you were military? Does a soldier earn praise for cleaning his gear after being ordered to clean their gear?

 

And you have zero evidence he did it. Zero. No place no time and every witness she named rebuts her claim.

Or is he guilty until proven innocent with you as well?

 

Not even remotely accurate detailing of what happened in the op. Added to my collection in preparation of next week. It’s Gona be glorious.

 

Yeah. How dare he get angry that people have been threatening to kill and rape his 10 year old daughter because of false allegations as part of an obvious political hit job. Clearly this proves he’s guilty. Specially since you don’t have any evidence whatsoever to actually prove it did. Saved for my collection

 

Why the hell is the FBI involved? It is a state law enforcement issue not a federal? And even if it was, there is nothing there. It a he said she said. Bring to the floor, vote yes or no, and then move on.

 

I guess there must be a crime in making an accusation when you do not have physical evidence or corroboration, but I have never heard of one.

 

The dude said perjury, but I think the perjury can be traced back as far as the letter(if false.) She claimed she was raped, she sent this to Feinstein(which set all of this in motion.) If the FBI cannot show this actually happened, then well I think the Senate itself is going to want to chew her out.

 

A Senate Confirmation hearing does NOT require "evidence".

They can reject him for reason.

"Evidence" per se is not required.

 

Pay attention. This is not a law enforcement matter at all. Nobody is being charged, arrested or tried so questions of jurisdiction are irrelevant. The FBI is traditionally involved in doing the BACKGROUND investigations of nominees to federal posts. They do this job at the direction of the President. They have done this already several times when Kavanaugh was nominated for prior posts. President Trump has directed that they do a supplemental investigation on specific allegations that are before the Senate so that sufficient numbers of Senators can feel comfortable that they can do their job and advise or consent. The FBI is doing this because your president told them to. The President told them to, when he learned that he could not get enough votes for Kavanaugh if he didn't.

Senators Flake, Collins and Murkowski are giving the orders here and your President is taking them.

 

The republicans do not know how to fight dirty like the dems do. The Dems will continue to win until the conservative voters respond and force the republicans to grow a pair and fight back

 

Wow the 'dude' needs a lesson in the elements a prosecutor has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to get a conviction of perjury. If the FBI cannot show this happened. Then they have only proved that they did not find evidence that it did.

As for your statement, Ford stated she thought she would be raped. She did not say that she was raped because she had that one piece bathing suit that Kavanaugh could not manage to get off in his drunken state. She was describing her fear, not her reality. She was just sexually assaulted - groped and restrained etc.
she was also careful to say she was scared she might be accidently killed because she was having trouble getting breath.

 

What are you going to complain about when they come back with nothing again?

Going to have more fake unsupported claims to fall back on?

 

I frankly would have preferred two weeks, because the vote is one week away which means the report has to be done in about five days, but this may provide enough time that some important questions are answered. Two weeks to the vote would have provided one week of investigation time.

 

One member did not alert the committee because the witness was not prepared to come forward. As soon as everything was public Trump and Grassely could have, and should have, called to update the background check.