1 officer killed, 6 others wounded in South Carolina shooting; suspect in custody

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    Then we need to get at the gene that causes violence in order to id the violent at birth. Or we do not let Judge Kava ( yes I am being funny) do away with abortion and ID the violent gene right after conception and either abort or fix it.

    No I am not serious but there really is not other way to prevent the violent from acting out if we cannot ID them before hand.
     
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    Knives and similar things do not cause a shootout. Only the police should have firearms, not the gangsters. This should be achieved. Then the cop would still be alive.
     
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    Your logic makes no sense. Say we take all the guns away from known gun owners so that only cops have them. How are you going to get the millions of guns in the hands of criminals who illegally posses them?

    Your version of a paradise is where only the cops, and robbers have guns. Law abiding citizens will be caught in the middle.

    Criminals will not turn their illegally purchased, untraceable, guns in when the government asks. Foolish to think otherwise.
     
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    In my private paradise, only law enforcement officers have guns. Criminals will be catched before they get one. :)
     
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    But criminals already have tens of millions of guns. So take away guns from the law abiding citizens and what are you left with?
     
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    I'll get some arms industry CEOs standing in unemployment lines waiting for welfare checks.
    :p
     
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    We do not, and should not, incarcerate people on suspicion. We cannot prevent anyone from acquiring a firearm unless we incarcerate them before they do. We can only prevent them from LEGALLY acquiring a firearm, but only after due process.
     
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    Agree, we should not incarcerate anyone on a suspicion.
     
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    I propose that we institute a zero tolerance policy towards the initiation of violence. First offense goes to jail until they can show and be proven they no longer have violent proclivities. If they are returned to peaceable society and commit another initiation of violence, then they go away forever. Also, anyone who initiates a violent act using ANY weapon goes away forever, zero tolerance. Only those violent offenders who continue pose a risk to the safety of their fellow inmates and jailers receive the death penalty.

    We reserve incarceration facilities exclusively for segregating the violent. Non-violent offenders who pose no violent risk to peaceable society do not need to be segregated. Exceptions for extreme cases where public safety is at risk can be made.
     
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    Why do we even have “Minimum Security prisons”?

    If a crime is so small that they send you to a place that doesn’t even have bars or fences and goes off of the honor system, why are we arresting these people in the first place?

    That’s the better question.
     
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    So, then, since there are upwards of a half billion firearms at large in our society, and we cannot PREVENT anyone from acquiring one of them, then we must accept that, occasionally, someone will go crazy and shoot people.

    We all know that banning and confiscation is not going to happen. We all know that eliminating the 2A is not going to happen. Faced with these truths, the best way to mitigate violence is to focus our attention on the violent, and adopt a zero tolerance policy against them.
     
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    I don't know. I think the only justification for incarcerating a person is because he is too dangerous to be at large in our peaceable society.
     
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    I like Odin better.
     
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    That would be theoretically possible. If someone wants to own a firearm, he has to fulfill several conditions.

    But obviously, arms industry profits are worth more than policeman lives.
     
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    That’s what I thought.
     
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    You will have to amend the Constitution, and endure a bloody civil war, to do what you propose. Violence is half what it was in the '90s. Why do you want to change that?
     
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    Nelson Mandela was a living example. There are millions more.

    But the lightbulb has to want it.
     
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    Yeah that's working out great in London.
     
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    Project Exile.

    It worked.
     
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    Nelson Mandela was a sub human savage that “Tired” people.

    The fact you would look up to such genetic scum is quite telling of yourself.
     
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    He was a living example of leftist fiction.

    Do you know how many people Umkhonto we Sizwe, aka MK, killed?
     
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    Not if it infringes on my rights. The best way to deal with a violent mind is with violence.
     
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    Zero tolerance for violence means absolutely no war, ever, no harming animals, ever, no maintaining a violent thought, ever. That's what the phrase 'zero tolerance for violence' actually entails. I once met some meditating mountain Buddhists. They seemed fit for (that) purpose and in their view the violent were already self segregated.
     
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