A simple question

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  1. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    A great deal of back and forth discussion regarding Ford has been made on the Kavanaugh matter, with points raised ranging from serious mental illness on her part, to being utilized as a purely political pawn for the express purpose of trying to remove Brett Kavanaugh for consideration for the united state supreme court.

    In light of the gofundme account set up for Ford, and the amount of funding that has been donated to it, perhaps it is time to ask another, different question. Was it actually Ford who played the liberal democrat party for her own personal gain?
     
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    gofunme is creepy ties to others that are using it for their political agenda
     
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    i will leave answering that question others.

    However, I will say this:

    She didn't stop Kavanaugh--But if she has figured out a way to get paid for her trouble, more power to her.
     
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    And then there's just about everyone including Trump calling her "very credible"
     
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  6. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    So many individuals bemoan Donald Trump, calling his presidency illegitimate, and labeling him all manner of terms synonymous for someone of low intelligence. Yet these same individuals suddenly agree with him when he states he believes Ford is credible? How is this inconsistency rationalized and reasoned?
     
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    I dont think she is bright enough to do that on her own.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    Considering how the liberal democrat party has descended into matters of identity politics, emotional rhetoric, and dismissing everyone as being a racist for having differing ideas, just how bright would one have to be in order to trick the party into believing a false claim?
     
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    It's similar to a blind squirrel finding an acorn. :)
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    Simply because individuals believe Ford was sincere in her claims does not make her credible.
     
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    cred·i·ble
    ˈkredəb(ə)l/
    adjective
    adjective: credible
    1. able to be believed; convincing.
      "few people found his story credible"
      synonyms: believable, plausible, tenable, able to hold water, conceivable, likely, probable, possible, feasible, reasonable, with a ring of truth, persuasive
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    The testimony of Ford does not meet the definition of credible. There were far too many holes in her story, too many absent details pertaining to everything, yet somehow she manages to remember the name Kavanaugh, but she only remembered it six years ago while in therapy/counseling. Even the prosecutor hired to question her stated that her accusations would not meet the preponderance of evidence standard, which is the lowest standard allowed by united states law when it comes to evidence.

    What many supporters of Ford are doing is confusing sincere with credible. Supposedly she sincerely believes her story, but individual belief is not the same thing as credibility. There are those who sincerely believe the afterlife is real after experiencing a near-death experience, but there accounts cannot be verified so there is no evidence of what was or was not experienced.
     
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    Your confusing credible with proof.
     
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    Of course it wouldn't be the first time this guy was wrong.
    Trump said he found Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford's testimony 'compelling' and called her 'a very credible witness'
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-calls-kavanaugh-assault-accuser-ford-credible-witness-2018-9
     
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    "So many individuals bemoan Donald Trump, calling his presidency illegitimate, and labeling him all manner of terms synonymous for someone of low intelligence."

    For every resister there is a birther. For every person who believes Obama is a racist there is a person who believes Trump is one. For every person that thinks Kavanaugh got a raw deal there is a person who feels Merrick Garland got a raw deal. For every person who believes the accusations women brought accusations against Clinton and Frankin there is a person that believes the accusations brought against Trump and Kavanaugh. Foe every person who believes she should have been locked up there is a person who believes he should be impeached. For every person who believes a party is full of Nazis there is a person who believes the other party is full of Nazis.

    People need to think and discuss, not name call and blame.
    How is this tribalism good for America?
     
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    The original letter sent to Feinstein listed Leyand Keyser as a "Male" companion.

    The same letter that Feinstein kept from Grassley until the 7th FBI investigation was initiated.

    Tom Cotton is on a mission to find out who actually wrote the letter.
     
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    I blame my parents.
    My dad taught me to stand up to liars and bullies and my mom taught me empathy.
     
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    To what end?
     
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    Then explain in detail, precisely why the so-called "testimony" presented by Ford qualifies as being considered as credible. Show what information she provided, that meets the standard needed for qualifying as credible.
     
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    I dont think so. I think something did happen to Ford. I dont know if it was Kavanaugh or not.
     
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    Of course not. Feinstein and company is the master player here. Ford was a convenient and timely pawn that fell into Feinstein's hands and got thoroughly. Sympathy in the "me too" movement got the funds going, and the lawyers charging $500 and hour plus expenses will take all the money.
    Ford will gain little if anything, and will go home knowing that this time, she really did get screwed.
     
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    I just want to know if you think he was lying.

    Or do you think he's just so stupid that he doesn't know what he's saying?

    Has to be one or the other.

    Which?
     
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    Looking into gofundme would not be a bad idea. Fraud comes to mind.
     
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    Right. So you believe in that crazy doppleganger theory huh?
     
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    What is believed that, Donald Trump knows no matter what he chooses to say will be criticized and ridiculed, so he is deliberately making statements he knows full well will inflame and upset his critics, purely for the sake of being amused at their rapid reactions and responses.

    In short, simple, easy to understand terms, he is yanking their chains for the fun of it, and doing so because he knows it will get a reaction out of those that do not like him.

    By claiming Ford was "credible" he may very well have been trying to provoke a blind, automatic response where his critics would instantly deny the claim and by extension have them say Ford was not credible.
     

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