I want to create a large private city in middle america that can outright ban guns.

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  1. TOG 6

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    Look at you, unaware of the fact the government does not grant rights.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    The UK formed in 1301 Lol
     
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    without US, speaking German or Russian by now
     
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    well by that logic we should not have any laws as criminals can break them

    while I 100% support ones right to own guns, I 100% support home owners rights to ban people form bringing guns on their property
     
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    Having a right to manage property as one sees fit makes little sense when what the property owner attempts to do is physically impossible to actually enforce, or is more likely to put those present at a greater risk of harm. If one is going to attempt such, perhaps they should assume all responsibilities for the well being of those that are going to be present on their property.
     
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    Scroll up. He said he could make a 100% safe haven using this method. Do you agree with him or not?

     
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    Anyone pro or anti gun should support a city that will give anti gunners our own space and removing us from the federal gun debate
     
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    Walled off inside a prison city cut off from both the Constitution and outside contact. I doubt anyone would miss them since they wouldn't know they were there and vice-versa. How long before the UN condemns such a city for crimes against humanity?
     
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    Well when they come check it out thry would see people are more free and better off then the rest of America they would condemned the US for not being as progressive as an independent city
     
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    Anyone living within the united states is going to be a part of the debate by virtue of mere association.

    Beyond that particular matter, the various proposals supported by yourself have been read over, and it is quite likely that this proposed city on the part of yourself would never withstand constitutional muster if it were brought to the courts. Even if it could prevail against numerous lawsuits and allegations of violating the united states constitution, it would be financially ruined from simply defending itself in the legal action that would come about.
     
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    Free except for not having first amendment rights, second amendment rights, fourth amendment rights, and being subjected to a constant, pervasive brainwashing that supplies misinformation about the truth of the world just outside the confines of the city.
     
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    You can't Sue if you're not in the city, if you're in the city you're not going to get any help getting you're lawsuit out of City courts because of "back log"
     
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    They have all rights other than 2A.
    The constitution they would know would have a 2A that gives the right to be born and no 21A cause drunks got to GTHO
     
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    Nice pipe dream, but I strongly disagree for multiple reasons. #1 is it won't work due to human nature. #2 is the repeated advocation of denying Americans their Constitutional rights. Try this in China or some Third World country and you might succeed for a few years.

     
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    I think that is a great idea. No policeman could be armed of course, no military to protect from armed invasion from outside. I think that would be a remarkable experiment. Safe for unicorns.
     
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    That is where you have your big problem.......the "private police force" ( I don't understand "Cours"). Are they armed? Are they immune from any corruption?
     
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    They are equal to UK police courts
     
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    I want to create a large private city in middle america that can outright ban guns.


    Hmmm Private Police you say.

    Analysis.....Propensity for Corruption- Very High.

    How many banks will this city have and will there be any gold deposits?

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    One bank yes gold as a currency backer.
     
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    "Cours" are the unicorn police. They are magical beings armed only with their horns and can instantly tell if a person is guilty or innocent. No arrests are ever made since the innocent are freed and the guilty are skewered like a shish kabob and left in the street as an example to others.
     
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    I figured you for a Brit. Sorry, mate, but your ideas won't work in America. Unlike Australia and Canada, we threw out the King and his redcoats centuries ago.

    You're welcome for armed Americans saving your asses from the Germans twice in one century.

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    Max you are finally making some sense!
     
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    I'm not a Brit I lost the geographic lottery and was born in the states.
     
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    I always make sense!...well, sometimes not late on a Friday night.
     
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    The Courts that condemn Israels rights to exist and protect Sharia in sentiment?
     

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