White House to unveil federal cannabis reform 'very soon,' says GOP lawmaker

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  1. US Conservative

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    The White House is planning on tackling cannabis reform after the midterm elections, according to Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif.

    Rohrabacher tells FOX Business that the Trump administration has made a “solid commitment” to fix marijuana regulation.

    “I have been talking to people inside the White House who know and inside the president’s entourage... I have talked to them at length. I have been reassured that the president intends on keeping his campaign promise.”

    Rohrabacher says the president has spoken in support of legalizing medical marijuana on the federal level – and leaving the question of recreational marijuana use up to the states.

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politic...l-cannabis-reform-very-soon-says-gop-lawmaker

    In addition to prison reform, I think this would be popular with many outside of the democrat party.

    Presumably this would be after Jeff Sessions is replaced.

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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree with this approach. Repeal the federal laws that criminalize marijuana and leave the rest to the states.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it will be quite popular but there are 2 concerns I have.

    Many violent criminals pleaded guilty to "non violent" crimes, and we have to be mindful that they commit crimes once released. Conversely, there are many in prison over the sale of marijuana.

    The second concern-there are real dangers to marijuana use. People need to be made aware of these dangers.

    Medically, or recreationally Im fine with this as long as people know the risks.
     
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    I agree that we should be careful about who we release from prison. I seriously doubt we have people doing hardcore prison time for the mere possession of marijuana.

    I think people should know the risks. They know the risks of tobacco and alcohol, so they should know the risks of marijuana.

    We need to keep in mind a couple of things:

    (1) People who like to smoke marijuana are going to smoke marijuana.
    (2) Law enforcement cannot stop the availability of marijuana.

    So rather than wasting our time and money trying to use law enforcement to stop the unstoppable, the federal government ought to just repeal the federal laws criminalizing marijuana and leave the decision up to the states. I live in Oregon, and marijuana has been legalized - recreational and medical. There is a legal marijuana store about 6 blocks from my house. The sky isn't falling, my community is no less safe than it was, and I don't really believe many more people are using recreational marijuana than before it was legal. And the state collects taxes off it. Believe it or not, life goes on as before.

    Our law enforcement people focus their narcotics work on hard drugs like heroin, meth, etc.

    And if the federal government makes this move, it leaves this decision up to the states - legalize or don't? Isn't that consistent with the Constitution? States should decide things that aren't covered in the Constitution.

    Seth
     
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    Well that's a pleasant step forward.
     
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    About ****ing time. The most dangerous risk from marijuana use is that it is illegal. As a result, you risk having to do business on the black market. You risk arrest, fines, and criminal record. You risk losing your job, your career, your personal and professional life. Once it is no longer illegal, the vast majority of the major risk associated with marijuana will disappear.
     
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    Trump should announce this before the midterms. Nothing would confuse the millennial voters more.
     
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    Sounds ok to me.
     
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    If Trump had any real balls he would legalize cocaine.
     
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    Lol.

    He's got you for another 6 years and you know it.
     
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    well, grownups should be responsible for their decisions and i don't think it's very productive to put people in jail for possessing a plant. i would be very happy to see the federal government out of marijuana enforcement, but we have a little leverage here... drug testing for any public benefits should be a part of the deal. i'm not interested in subsidizing the lifestyles of stoners who get up at the crack of noon to fire up their playstation along with their bongs. as a side note, our neighboring state of oregon legalized recreational marijuana a few years ago. i now understand they are legally selling something called "diamonds" which are basically super-concentrated crystalline tinctures of "weed sauce" that are like 5x stronger than hashish!

    that's got be like tripping on acid. not sure i want to be sharing the roads with those folks...
     
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    i'd be fine with legalizing all drugs with three caveats:

    1. all recipients of public benefits are drug tested periodically. that's general assistance, wic, public housing, food stamps, medicaid, the whole lot.
    2. not a dime of tax money is used to provide drug treatment for any person.
    3. illegal aliens (including dreamers) caught in possession of any previously scheduled substance (including marijuana) are immediately deported after they serve their prison sentences for possession of these substances, the penalties for which will remain in place for illegals. iow, they do not enjoy the privilege of getting high in a country where they are criminally present.
     
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    Not even grownups are responsible.

    Sorry to break the news.

    Also, what is "our neighboring state"?
     
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    plenty of grownups are responible. we are in idaho. you are in oreogon?
     
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    Does this include politicians and billionaires that receive tax credits also? Or only the poor? I do agree that all groups should be cut off from government houndouts if they have the funds to buy drugs or any sort.
    What about children born addicted? It happens now so I’m sure it will continue
    How bout we just deport them reguardless - I don’t want my tax dollars paying for their housing and meals

    I don’t think legalizing all drugs are necessarily a good thing. Even people that consume meth admit it should be illegal. Heroine is the same way. Anything that causes severe withdrawal should be illegal or highly regulated at minimum.
     
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    Plenty aren't.

    Not saying that the gov should be involved, Im saying we can't ignore the reality.
     
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    This sounds great, but in order to insure it becomes a reality, we'd need a democrat majority in the Senate. As camp-steveo pointed out in another thread, too many Republicans are not on board with this to assume it can be done with a Republican majority. Of course, this isn't a major issue for most conservatives, but it is for me, as a medical marijuana patient.

    And Jeff Sessions is irrelevant. If he doesn't resign over this, he will shut is flappy mouth, or Trump will just fire him!
     
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    Wrong. Trump is actually bypassing the dems here, and deferring it to the states.

    He and other republicans will paint it as a states rights issue, and dems will be in the awkward position.

    If you haven't figured it out, Trump is owning dems.

    I wonder how millennial will react?
     
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    i’m not a fan of tax credits... want a new football stadium? build it yourself. then obama can’t tell you you didn’t build it. that said, your conflation of a billionaire financier and a laxy stoner who wakes at noon to play video games is a bit of a strawman.

    yes, we should deport the illegals, but. if we catch them with drugs, they should be punished. frying your brain with smack, or ice, or diamonds for that matter should be a privilege reserved for citizens and legal residents.
     
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    Here is a short instructive on what to look for in cannabis "legalization" legislation if you like the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution:



     

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