Khashoggi murder: Trump has emboldened MBS to act with impunity

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  1. bendog

    bendog Well-Known Member

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    Your killing me ... wait, I don't mean literally.

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  2. Denizen

    Denizen Well-Known Member

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    Trump is allowing the Embassies of countries ruled by despots to murder visitors with impunity.

    Trump is inventing excuses and alibis for Mohammed Bin Salman.

    Kushner is a dupe of the Saudis hypnotized by the smell of oil dollars.
     
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    I don’t think everyone caught on to your jest combined with a salient point, but I did. Well done!
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess luring a dissident legal US resident Saudi journalist into a trap, where a hit team of 15 saudis having flown to turkey, including a high ranking security official and a number of the prince's own security detail AND a forensic expert AND a doctor, proceeded to murder him within the Saudi consulate and then chop up his body and ship it out, ain't a big deal these days in trumpland.

    Sounds like one of their wet dreams of dealing with the NYT or the Post.

    What's a little sanctioned murder between friends, eh? I mean "american values" are for "americans" only.
     
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  5. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Likewise, my friend :applause:
     
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    Pretty sure everyone caught the "joke".
     
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    If so, some response to it was highly ironic!
     
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    Let’s have a show of hands of those who knew who Kahsoggi and MSG were three weeks ago..........and then explain to me why CNN is blaming Trump for a Saudi citizen being allegedly killed in his country’s consulate in a third country.......??
     
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    Nobody's blaming trump.

    They are criticizing his weasely reaction to it. The world is watching and respect for American values is on the table.
     
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    Think about it........it flies in the face of democracy to turn a blind eye. American interest is not monolithic, is it?

    Yippa.
     
  12. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So... 4 American dead including American Ambassador murdered by Islamists did not fly in the face of democracy? Why, Hillary said

     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was not joking. I really want to know why 4 Americans dead in Benghazi have commanded exponentially less attention from Liberals, that one dead American journalist?
     
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    I think MbS has had enabling from more than just Trump.

    And I wouldn't blame Trump for MbS abuses in SA or Yemen, but it's hard to see the Trump admin as being a moderating force, and we have no cred with other democracies except Israel if it sees its interests coinciding with ours.
     
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    But whatabout...

    pathetic justification for not giving a crap.
     
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    You would think that after half a dozen investigations over 4 years.

    You would also believe that attacks by terrorists is exactly the same as an ally dismembering a us resident.
     
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    nice attempt at thread derailment. WTF does hillary have to do with this other than she is one of your obsessions?
     
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    MBS has only been in power for a year and he has already shook down people for $100B and kidnapped a foreign minister. Now this assassination. The War in Yemen is ongoing, and homosexuality is punished by beheading.

    Seems like we should be putting our relationship on "pause" at the very least.
     
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    Today, kids, we discover MAGA is fulled by selling the tools to burn and starve hundreds of thousands of Yemeni children to death at the hands of an Arabic regime which also excels at body chopping Saudi dissidents who live in the US.

    Meanwhile, back on the 21st century's dystopian version of the ranch, Gavin McInnes was last seen wandering around NY brandishing a sword.

    #winning
     
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    It didn't seem to be a problem when Obama's limp wristed leadership emboldened Al Queda to kill 4 AMERICANS in Benghazi. This guy isn't even an American. It's a Saudi matter and none of our business. The left needs to drop the faux outrage over everything, they are ruining their own credibility. You'll find that out the hard way in two weeks.
     
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    How many American journalists were beheaded on video while Obama was President.
     
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  23. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WTF is wrong with comparing and looking for similarities in historic events?
     
  24. bendog

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    Imo there is sort of a parallel between Susan Rice being put on tv and Pompeo off to SA.

    But what people tend to overlook is that Trump really is the opposite of Obama on things like Egypt's overthrow of Mubarak. And all in all, imo Egypt would have been better off without any revolution.
     
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    The Trump admin is all in on the neocon dream of regime change in Iran. MbS is all in on that.

    Not that I thought Obama was much good on for policy, but the sunni are every bit capable of overdoing it on killing for their version of Islam as are the shiaa. And the Sunni's actually attacked us, which Iran hasn't done. So as military allies, I'd avoid them both. But Iran is funding Hezbollah and generally making life difficult.
     
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