Conservatives mount a whisper campaign smearing Khashoggi.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would think it matters a lot. The US was only a place to hang his hat, not some place where he placed his loyalty.
     
  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did he walk in to the Ukrainian consulate and get tortured, killed and dismembered after being critical of the leader of Ukraine as an editorial writer for a US newspaper? Does Don and his son-in-law have questionable business ties with the leader of Ukraine? Did Don create a cover story for the murder? False equivalence is your stock and trade.
     
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    The investigation is not complete. Did the Russians do something which might have caused the crash since they don't like us being in the Ukraine? I am more concerned about an American pilot than I am a Saudi citizen.
     
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    Again ... If the Guy WAS Pallin' around with Bin Laden and also
    keenly interested in the Muslim Brotherhood what on earth is wrong
    about bringing it to light.Unless this is like Obama and how it was never
    brought up his close association with Bill Ayers { both on boards at the
    Woods Fund and Annenberg }.Or how Obama admitted to MTV his dabbling
    with Cocaine { " maybe a little blow " } use and being in some Pot Club in high school.
     
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    False equivalencies are your stock in trade
     
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    And here is one of the Trumpers engaging in the whisper campaign this thread is about

    Disgusting but typical
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is it just you or is it requirement that members of the angry mob of democrats post kneejerk reactions to an event that has not yet been fully investigated.
    Calm down and let the facts play out. I will suggest you have little or no knowledge as to what is involved diplomatically here.
     
  8. Lesh

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    The facts ARE playing out and they're pretty disturbing

    A member of OUR media was abducted, tortured, killed and dismembered

    His killers were able to enter the Saudi Consulate WITH a friggin bone saw

    Many of the 15 man "kill team" have been identified as members of the Saudi royal bodyguard

    At least ONE member was a forensic expert...brought specifically it would seem to USE that bone saw to dismember the body
     
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    Nope. Just as important, but little or no coverage because he was only a US Air Force pilot and not a journalist.

    You care only about some bad event which can somehow, no matter how tenuous, be linked, to Trump. That is your stock and trade. You don;t care about the journalist. Only what mileage you can make with Trump.
     
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    Why have you only mentioned it now then?

    Why have you not started a thread about it?

    Could it be that you don't really care and needed "something" to use as a false equivalency?

    Yea...pretty much
     
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    An American pilot aboard a Ukrainian Air Force fighter jet was killed when the aircraft crashed Tuesday during a training exercise in Ukraine, officials said.

    The Ukrainian Defense Ministry said two pilots aboard the Su-27 had been killed in the crash, which took place in the Khmelnytskyi region located in the western part of the country about 200 miles west of the capital of Kiev.


    The U.S. Air Force command based in Europe said the American pilot, who was not identified, was among the two pilots on board at the time.

    The crash took place during joint military training between the U.S. military and Ukrainian counterparts, known as Clear Sky 2018.

    "It is currently under investigation and we will continue to provide more information as it becomes available," U.S. Air Forces in Europe said in a statement.

    The joint military training was billed as the "first-ever Clear Sky exercise," to be held primarily at Starokostiantyniv Air Base in Ukraine as well as other training areas and ranges in the region.

    Yea...if the Russians brought that Ukrainian fighter down it IS a big deal.

    That doesn't affect what MBS did in the slightest
     
  12. Lesh

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    On the other hand...this happened in the western region of Ukraine and likely WAS a training accident.

    So what were you stupidly saying?
     
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    "OUR"? Kashoggi was NOT a US citizen.
    Nobody entered the Saudi Consulate with a friggin bone saw. The entered through a door.
    Calm dodwn. I am sure you will still find plenty to he unhappy about.
     
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    Only that the cause is unknown and you and the media could care less because he was only a US Air Force pilot and not a newsman and cannot be tied to Trump.
     
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    Why is the left showing faux outrage over this when they aren't concerned with American citizens being killed by illegal aliens? Collateral damage, I suppose.
     
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    Wait. Are you claiming that were there no illegal aliens...there would be no murders?
     
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    Of course not. Are you?
     
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    Again...this is just some bit of nonsense for you to use as a false equivalency.

    All evidence points to it being a training accident.

    It occurred far away from the Russian "front" and you have shown NO interest in it until now

    But you have to say "something" right?
     
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    He was a US resident who worked for OUR media
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Amen. Find me any of the usual suspects in angry mob of malcontent democrats that even bothered to respond to a thread about Kate Steinle. They have created at least a half dozen over the killing of a non US citizen on foreign soil. Go figure.
     
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    He was a non US citizen killed on foreign soil.
     
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    What makes it false? He was a US citizen, an US Air Force officer, serving our country. the crash was suspicious. They were both very experienced pilots.
    What evidence? The investigation has not been completed or released.
    I showed interest as soon as I heard about it. I have an interest in the US Air Force, unlike you who only has an interest in something bad which can somehow be tied to Trump.
    Didn't have to say a thing, but it seemed to be important to point out the hypocrisy.
     
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    It is Far more American and civil to speak softly but carry a
    big punch.Conservatives don't look to disrupt or make a
    disturbance.But when push comes to shove they are all
    much closer to Superman than a Snidley Whiplash.
     
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    Ask the Lesh if this Media is truly " Our Media ".
    I think NOT.Trump and his huge crowds prove different each and
    every week.As does Fox and Talk Radio.
    Obama,the supposed Savior for the Democrat Party actually
    took the party to it's worse membership { Elected members }
    since the Late 1920's.More than 1,2oo elected democrat seats were
    lost since 2010 under Obama's tutelage.
     
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    How do you know? Where is this bone saw?
    How do you know one was used? Are there dismembered body parts?
     

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