Why do liberals want no limit open borders?

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Your remarks just get more absurd everytime you post.
     
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    When out grandparents and parents of those who are my age 65, came here there were little cost drains on society. They were forced to get jobs and assimilate into our culture, These were the days of a greatly expanding economy and jobs were plentiful and when they were no jobs, there were no benefits to the jobless other than soup kitchens. In the case during the 50s and early 60s, Portuguese immigrants needed a sponsor saying they had a job, the father then came here worked for a couple of years to get enough money to send for his wife and kids. The kids went to school for three years in seperate classrooms where they learned English while the other subjects were taught in their language.

    The left worries more about the illegals than they do about the poor mexicans that come here as migrant farm workers and send their money home to support their families there. For 6 months a year they are forced to live like cattle in substandard housing and no access to medical care. These are immigrants that come here to work so we can have the cheapest food supply in the world.
     
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    A private sale is - private

    Voting is a public event
     
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    Wrong. To buy a firearm from a licensed dealer, you need government id AND a background check (illegal according to the 4th amendment, but who cares about that nasty constitution) and often a waiting period.. To vote, you must register and provide ID to vote makes sense. I personally believe buying a gun, all should be private without any constitutional violating background check, but voting is a government function that is constitutionally defined as a government function. You have 4 years to prepare to vote in an election. If you cannot register for four years, and cannot get or have a government ID, you should not be voting.
     
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    Or taking that trip to Vegas where they blew thousands at the blackjack tables?
     
  6. Moonglow

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    All they have to do is join the military and it comes with the job.
     
  7. not2serious

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    I think we agree MAC-7 on the facts.
    The OP is great. I understand it. There is nothing defined in the OP because he/she wants to hear your OPINION. I certainly, and apparently others don't have a problem understanding it.
     
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    Dah...it’s still a sale. YOU DO GET THAT ITS STILL has federal laws governining it. Even private sales you can’t knowingly selll to a felon.

    Voting is voting in private. No one is suppose to know who you voted for.
     
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    It's not sedition so your charges would be dropped..
     
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    It is simply theft via the tax system and the government, who by the way, cannot figure out you take X millions of dollars in, you cannot spend 2X. Read Sun Tzu's "art of war".
     
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    I already have read the book but there is no mention of politics in the US.
     
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    Voting is private, getting the ballot is public. Sell a gun to a felon, he commits a crime with it, and you my friend, are in deep shitt. You need government ID to drive a car, get on an airplane, go into a court house in most cases.
    And as I stated, the government has not legal constitutional right to control anything about the sale or use of weapons unless investigating a crime used with the weapon. SHALL NOT INFRINGE. Infringe is an excellent word that describes NO AUTHORITY by government.
     
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    It is simply human behavior. nothing has changed since the book was written 3000 years ago. Mankind never biologically has made any significant changes in 10,000 years. His words ring true today as the day he wrote it (Or they wrote it). Mankind has not changed. Go back and read the section about the cost of foreign wars. It destroys the nation waging war.
     
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    Why did you change the sale to buying from a dealer....can’t read can you ? Voting is a private act under govt. guildlines, that’s why they have booths and why you can early vote by mail.... .
    Private sales of guns are private acts also under govt. guildlines.,In states that don’t practice voter suppression, you don’t produce an ID to vote either..
     
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    Go look up sedition, then get back to me!!
     
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    True
     
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    yes....the GOP created death......liberal logic.
     
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    Private sales are a grey area

    But if BATF tried to manage all the private guns in America it would be a nightmare for them
     
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    Oh, you want federal govt. Overreach. States and cities should have the freedom to enforce local laws as they see fit. Unlike you, all Brown people are not illegal aliens. You want then treated differently. To bad Melania wasn’t deported when she held illegal status. But you’re all right with that, she’s white.
     
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    Very good. Now you’re getting it. It’s about time. By denying universal HC they create death for 30k people a year.
     
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    Because buying from a dealing and voting are basically under that same rules. Produce government ID, get privilege (voting and buying a gun are "privileges", not rights. A right can never be taken away, a privilege can be. But buying a gun from a licensed dealer or from a private person in Michigan (for example) you still must take the gun in and register it if it was a private sale. If you do not within 10 days, you commit a felony.
    Register for voting is easy, and I still do not agree with any from of voting than to go to the polling place to cast your ballot. Internet voting is filled with fraud. Show up, show iD on voting day is the way it was when I was young, and it still should be.. it is not voter suppression, it is voter VERIFICATION.
     
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    It’s done better then we in EVERYOTHER country that tries.
    They have constitutions too.
     
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    So a town with no crime, should have no laws against it? Would you procrastinate until it is beyond repair? You pretend that voting is so important but you prove that it has very little value to you except as something to be torched. Only the unprepared are surprised by the requirements at the polls. It is not a Mardi Gras.
     
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    and?
     
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    Correction - the OP has rendered his opinion by pretending that libs want open borders.
    Where is the substantiation to prove his FAILED point and his "greatness"?
     

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