Why do liberals want no limit open borders?

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  1. not2serious

    not2serious Well-Known Member

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    OH my God, playing the race card are we? Well let me tell you, according to 23 and me, I am 64% white, 21 percent Negroid and 15% mongoloid (American indian), and I AM 100% native American, I was born here. That's all you got, that worn out mantra of "RACISM" "RACISM" RACISM". Racism is alive and well, only it is now against the whites and is celebrated for getting EVEN.

    And I am not right with ANY illegal alien.
     
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    I’ve bought dozens of guns from dealers and dozens more privately. I dont need a lesson. I know my rights and responsibility already. .

    Private firearm sales are regulated, just like voting. You do both in private and there are strict penalties for each if violated. . But, you do not provide an ID in either ( only for initial registration which you do with a gun) process because there is a presumption of innocence without due process.
     
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    It doesn’t matter who your friends are or what your race make up. You have yours but you don’t want due process for someone else because of their perceived race and their look. It’s still racism. You want everyone who reports a crime and looks latino, to be subject to special scrutiny. Even if you were American Latino, you’re practicing racism. Lyn Ted and Rubio practice the same game. They have theirs and want to protect it.
    Whose really responsible ? The people who hire them and provide them opportunity. The practice of Racism is always the result of economics. Hold republicans responsible for hiring illegals, then you might have an argument.
     
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    Ah huh, you and Sen. Warren.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Follow the grand wizard, Trump.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Ha ha
    I’m a gun owner, avid hunter and have had a CWP for decades. No gun law proposed by liberals will do anything to my regulated access to firearms or my ability to vote. Your whole post is a canard. Unlike you, I don’t live in fear of my shadow.
     
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    Well what steps are you going to take to insure that they get a valid ID. Are you just going to have the id "dept" open 3 hours a week during the time when people are working or will you set up neighborhood voter registration kiosks after hours and on weekends so that people can register.
     
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    Something many people don't understand. The recent events with separating children was all blamed on Trump, as if he chose to do something evil.

    However, Obama decided to suspend enforcement of laws that made asylum claims a back-door fast entry to the US. When he did that, the number of people claiming asylum exploded, and coming from places that didn't fit. They came with kids, because in part that made asylum easier to get. Obama opened the door, created that problem.

    Trump rescinded the order, and the law became effective again- but now had hordes to deal with instead of a few dozen. Trump got all the blame, for enforcing the laws already on the books. It was Obama's legacy that created the crisis.
     
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    Hard to imagine , but you never know how far celebrities in decline will go to grab some attention.

    “Trump’s election is going to be the biggest ‘**** you’ ever recorded in human history — and it will feel good,” Moore argued.

    “Whether Trump means it or not is kind of irrelevant because he’s saying the things to people who are hurting, and that’s why every beaten-down, nameless, forgotten working stiff who used to be part of what was called the middle class loves Trump,” Moore continued. “He is the human Molotov cocktail that they’ve been waiting for, the human hand grenade that they can legally throw into the system that stole their lives from them.”

    Michael Moore: People will vote for Donald Trump as a giant “F**k you” — and he’ll win
    Forget the polls, boho-proletarian filmmaker tells movie audience: Trump's "legal terrorism" will win, MATTHEW SHEFFIELD, OCT 26, 2016.

    Moore is obviously a lot smarter than Kelly. She might think of a hook up as an opportunity to learn.
     
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    You are absolutely right. The MSM's effort to erase the public record has failed.

    "Obama's Admission

    So the President’s immediate association of “End Family Detention” with immigration lawyers wasn’t random. He’d been told and believed we were basically the only ones who’d care, and even then, it would be a minority of us that wouldn’t extract from him a political cost.

    So when I said “Yes”, the President looked back and engaged: “I’ll tell you what we can’t have. It’s these parents sending their kids here on a dangerous journey and putting their lives at risk.” And he walked on down the rope line. Not, “I know. I’m working on it.” not, “Thanks for your support”. Just, “Yes. This is the right move given what I perceive the facts to be.”

    I was dumbfounded. Let’s unpack the logic of what he said because it’s that logic which led us here.

    First, the President [Obama] tacitly admittedly that he was using detention of mothers and children as a deterrent. Days later, a federal court would find that policy likely violates the due process clause. And rightly so, as the ACLU powerfully demonstrated."
    ZERO HEDGE, Shocking Testimony: Civil Rights Attorney Asked Obama To Close Migrant "Baby Jails", by Tyler Durden, Tue, 06/19/2018 In 2015.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...ney-asked-obama-close-migrant-baby-jails-2015
     
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    Anyone who is an avid hunter can't be all bad. Are you a blue dog Democrat(if I may ask)?
     
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    Voter ID/registration should be very convenient.
     
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    I belong to the largest “political” group.... independents.
    Born and raised in a family of hunters and fishermen. I literally live in the woods on a lake where city folk would call, in the middle of nowhere.
     
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    The excuse liberals use most is that these are elderly downtrodden black people who never had a birth certificate cause the mean white people would not give them one

    That does not sound like someone who is too busy working to me
     
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    When we have a voter participation rate of 37%, we’re doing something wrong. Making it easy to vote for every citizen is not only necessary for an informed democracy, but can represent our demise if we don’t.
     
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    If you have to make it that easy they cant be very informed

    I remember Florida 2000 when we learned how many AlGore voters were too stupid to fill out a paper ballot
     
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    Totally off subject. Voter registration is something you do at your own time and convenience. Voting is something you do at the govts, convenience. The problem is, states that practice voter. Suppression, keep changing the rules without preparing or telling everyone. Having six polling places for the primary, then reducing it to two for they general without telling everyone, is voter suppression.
     
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    Any rule changes apply to whites and blacks alike
     
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    Sorry, you got your quota in the above reference to the post you just quoted. It’s not my fault you can’t read.
    You guys really have a short attention span.
     
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    Ah, the luck of the draw. Congratulations. No HOA. We were just looking online at a new manufactured home on thirty acres butted up against a national forest in Kentucky for 90K. Can't believe how low the home prices are there.
     
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    Because Libs — they're unintelligent enough to think tolerance helps. Tolerance only helps to smart people, not to monkeys. Monkeys demand overtolerance. Smart people don't. Smart people have decency and are often afraid to ask for help.
     
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    That’s good news then
    We built our place twenty years ago. The lot was used by local wildlife to drink at the waters edge. The deer, Bear and Moose thought our poor excuse for a road was their personal travel lane. Great to live here though.
     
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    It is easy to vote in America. You do not even have to be an American to vote here. People do not vote because they think, with some reason, that their votes are irrelevant in a country ruled by a corrupt bipartisan political class.

    “In recent years, despite thousands of bills introduced into Congress every year, only a small percentage (approximately 5%) become law. Of course, what matters for laws is quality not quantity. But why would legislators bother to introduce so many hopeless bills? What if they are not even designed to pass? What if they are instead designed to make money? The cold harsh reality in Washington is this: the very conditions that are so maddening for most Americans —gridlock, problems being ignored, hyper partisanship — are the very conditions that are most lucrative for the Permanent Political Class. Washington may not be working for citizens, but it's working quite well for members of the Permanent Political Class who profit handsomely.” EXTORTION, "How Politicians Extract Your money, BuyVotes, And Line Their Own Pockets, Peter Schweizer, HMO, NY, NY, 2013, p. 7,8.

    Ordinary Americans are onto the scam now. Hence Trump.
     

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