Probability Alien Life Watching Us Cannot be Determined

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  1. yasureoktoo

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    Except that I've worked with tools all my life, and you cannot make that piece by hand.
    Any machinist can look at that, and tell you it was made by machine.
     
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    Please cite credible (peer-reviewed) scientific studies that support this claim.
     
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    I'm totally agnostic on the ancient aliens thing though I think the show jumps to conclusions on very little evidence - however this is pretty good work in granite for copper chisels and stone mauls:

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    Aswan granite facing blocks in sphinx temple:

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    50 ton granite blocks above relieving chambers in GP.

    Very strange but proof of aliens? May be more plausible than ancient Egyptians using copper and stone mauls but still a stretch..........

    Always loved this shot of the Osireion though:

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    Here's the problem, or one of them.
    If this was just one place on earth, we could just scratch our heads and say, we just don't know, maybe as time goes on, we will learn.
    However, this is replicated in thousands of places, all over the world.
    Remember, none of this was easily researched, before the internet, 20 years. so we have something new here.
    To just assume that all of these prehistoric cultures were blessed with the knowledge, independent of each other, and then all of them forgot how to do it, is a little unreasonable.


    Look at the tongue and grove in the picture above.


    And none of this proves aliens, even though their religious text may claim the people came from the stars, which is replicated all over the world, but as of now, it is not proof.

    All it proves is an advanced tech. we did not consider, when writing the history.
     
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    Looks like a radial arm saw.

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    Now they have to pour metal in here, something strong, not copper or brass.
     
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    Seems like everyone knew how to do this stuff, and then forgot how to do it.
     
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    These are all in different places in the world.

    something funny happened a long time ago.
     
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    Why do you think it requires aliens? That's a lack of imagination on your part. Me, I think it requires making clay templates of surfaces, which would be very light, and using them to get a good match.

    By the way, are there any non-brown people that used alien help? I ask because I've never seen anyone speculating that the Romans or Chinese had alien help. It's only the poor brown people who are incapable of building large structures on their own. Rather racist of those aliens, only helping the brown people.
     
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    No, I don't think it required aliens, however it did require advanced tech.
    So we are left with the question, where did the tech come from. where did it go. how was it powered.
    BTW, Romans or Chinese can't do this either. I think when we are going as far back in time as we are the color of the people didn't matter at all.
     
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    You have to base your statistical analysis on something real. If its all made up then its worthless.

    Whats the probability of life being created on an earth clone planet? Nobody knows. If life evolves on that earth clone, whats the probability of life evolving to intelligence of the level of 21ts century humanity? Nobody knows. We dont even have those basic numbers and its about our own species.

    And some people think they can come up with the probability of non-earth life in the universe. That subject is pure speculation.
     
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    Then create life. Oh, wait, we can't. Because we do not know how life was created.
     
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    I see numerous claims being made;
    what I don't see are any references to credible scientific studies/sources to support them.

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    And you won't see them for a while, until they are accepted into mainstream.
    To claim extraterrestrial now, is occupational suicide.

    And BTW, There are lots of written claims, studies, however they will not be accepted by you, so it is not worth looking them up.

    And I am very careful not to jump on the alien bandwagon, speaking only of things I know about. Construction, and the carving of materials, and the tools required, by our mentality.
     
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    There was a nuclear war. On Mars too. In Siberia there's a metal orb buried in the ground. Russians and Americans sent men to investigate the object, deep in the swamps in Siberia. The object is not buried deep, its only half a meter or a meter under the mud. It emitted strong radiation so they had to pull away the scientists. All of them had nosebleeds and earbleeds and severe headaches after coming in contact with this. This explains a lot that aliens are here and there was a war. Maybe that's even a semi-active nuke and they're waiting to take on us.
     
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    Science doesn't make excuses for evidence.
     
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    Glaring absence of subject matter knowledge duly noted!

    Alleging that they "had no tools" is ludicrous. Metallurgy in the Americas is documented as far back as 5000 BC.
     
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    trump3_1471575619422_44589235_ver1.0_640_480.jpg
    Same way these were made...
     
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    http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20161026-the-secret-of-how-life-on-earth-began

    You have a couple of choices; life started on Earth in the primordial muck and evolved, or, one of the 200-300 Gawds created everything.

    IMO it is precisely how life started and evolved on Earth that gives credence to life starting around the Universe...
     
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    Okay....that is just scary alien stuff.
     
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    Read your own linked article. Nobody knows how life started, all they have is guesses, and they cannot create life.

    You left out one grate big choice - we don't know. In fact, we know so little we cannot even list all the possibilities.
     
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    I read this when it was new and yes, it was just RNA which is a precursor to DNA and eventual life. I am also aware you will not accept anything short of creating a Soltanotoidus in the Lab.
     
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    Like I said; life started on Earth in the primordial muck and evolved, or, one of the 200-300 Gawds created everything.

    So pick #1 or #2 or provide your own choice...BTW...'we don't know' is not an answer...
     

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