Abortion and poverty

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    She?

    Takes two to Tango
     
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    nd chances are they may not
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Chances are they're going to go ahead and have a baby even though they're still poor. It will just be at a time more convenient for them.
     
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    OK, are you pretending that you think women need a justification for an abortion?

    Because I've told you many times women do not need a justification, a reason, an excuse,...all that's needed is they want to have an abortion.

    Can you tell me why you don't understand that simple concept?
     
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    And yet Guttmacher gives a different statistic

    https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-united-states

    I meant in a relationship. But a large numberbdo have at least one child
     
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    You mean you didn't know that pregnancy is caused by sex?
     
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    My opinion is directly related to the choices people make and the lies they tell. If she cries poor but is obese, or smokes, or has an iphone, or tattoos, or buys $200 shoes, I'm not going to believe her. If she then chooses, rather than control herself until she's in a position to raise a child properly, to indulge her urges and kill the babies which result, then I'm going to have a low opinion of her.
     
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    Almost all the choices we make in life are a result of our early influences.
     
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    Pop psychology BS!

    So this woman : """ If she cries poor but is morbidly obese, or smokes, or has an iphone, or tattoos, or buys $200 shoes, I'm not going to believe her. If she then chooses, rather than control herself until she's in a position to raise a child properly, to indulge her urges and kill the babies which result, then I'm going to have a low opinion of her."""


    None of that is her fault ? It's the fault of her parents?

    Man! You are so far off with this one...


    If a person is 40 and their parents still influence their actions they have a serious mental issue.
     
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    No, that's not a "different statistic".

    Shacking up with someone for a month when you get pregnant doesn't qualify as marriage.

    It's just irresponsible people being irresponsible.
     
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    Then why are men risking imprgnating women by having unprotected sex with them???

    Why aren't more men advocating for reliable male contraception?

    Hell, why don't more men bank sperm then have a vasectomy so that the women they have sex with cannot fall pregnant until they both decide on offspring
     
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    Then why are men not more responsible?

    Takes two to tango you know
     
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    So, what practical intervention in all of this do you suggest?

    Going on the internet and preaching?
     
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    Men have nothing to do with it.

    It's a woman's body. Men have no input.
     
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    Nor should ANYONE ELSE!!!!!

    You are correct, it is the WOMAN'S BODY, no one else's...
     
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    Great.

    Your body, your responsibility.

    I've noticed thought that those most in support of abortion are the ones least likely to ever need one.
     
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    None. Other than 'raise your daughters well'.

    And yes, 'internet preaching' is a good place to start. I'll keep saying it over and over and over again. I don't give a flying f about guilt-driven offense taken. The more that someone resists the message, the more I know they're the types who'll believe anything if it means an easy life and less guilt. Parents who actually do the right thing, or at the very least .. accept full responsibility for errors made .. never have a problem with this message.
     
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    They want it both ways.
     
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    Decide which it is, please. Women have full autonomy and decision making power, or not. It's her body etc, or it isn't.
     
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    In what way?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Nor should ANYONE ELSE!!!!!

    You are correct, it is the WOMAN'S BODY, no one else's...



    Glad you agree that women own their bodies.

    That last sentence is confusing, was there a point in it?

    Where did you notice that?
     
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    In what way?

    Who wants it both ways? Both ways of what?
     
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    ...and let "boys be boys" ??





    if they believe internet preaching they'll believe anything :)


    What message is that?
     
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    Your average feminist gathering, of course.
     

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