The President is Pushing the Exact Conspiracies Cited by the Pittsburgh Shooter 5 Days After

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  1. MrTLegal

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    https://www.esquire.com/news-politi...trump-conspiracy-theories-pittsburgh-shooter/

    Trump learned that the Pittsburgh shooter hated him because Trump is a globalist who is controlled by the Jews and Trump thought, "Well ****, this guy is my part of my base, so I should make sure that the rest of them don't get the same ideas about me."

    And for those who are now scared of immigrants like the because Trump made you scared shitless, I remind you of a few facts:
    1) Immigrants are significantly less likely to commit crimes.
    2) Most cities which saw a rise in immigrants also saw a decrease in violent crimes.
    3) The Caravan is still two months away and it is filled with individuals who are going to voluntarily surrender themselves to authorities and apply for asylum, as is permitted by international law.
     
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    The left despises the Willie Horton ad because (A) it was effective and (B) it was 100% spot on.
     
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    Since according to you, the caravan isnt an issue, why dont you offer to put a few of them up at your house for a few years?
     
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    Actually it is not permitted by international law. International law doesn't consider you a refugee eligible for asylum based on the simple fact that you're poor.

    BTW, if you want to be taken seriously, you should reference legit news sources, not the DNC talking points memo.
     
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    How is Robert Bowers part of President Trump's base when he 1) did not vote for President Trump, 2) made several anti-Trump social media posts, and 3) was registered as an independent?
     
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    And for those who want to remember the people who are actual threats to this society, I remind you of the three big threats from last week:

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    Esquire and New York Times are legit news sources. Sorry.

    And they are not applying for asylum simply because they are poor.

    So that was a double post fail.
     
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    You want to make the argument that a guy who thinks Trump is a globalist controlled by the jews is part of a political group that is anything but the hard right?
     
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    If a group of poor and hungry immigrants that will arrive in two months scares you, then I suggest buying some guns and go sit in your bunker.
     
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    Let me know when you can come up with a talking point that does not revolve around trolling.
     
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    Solid argument there, Lou.
     
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    I wasn't making an argument then I was just asking for yours. I think you just gave it to me but I don't agree with it or think its well supported. A party's base subscribes to the core concepts which is why its called the base. President Trump doesn't care for globalism, Bowers thinks President Trump is a globalist, these are incompatible. Add in his anti-Trump comments and his voter registration as supporting evidence and we can reasonably say he is not part of the Trump/Republican base.
     
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    We have enough Americans who are poor and hungry. Why should the American people take in countless millions more? (I know this particular caravan isn't in the millions, but the grand total of immigrants coming here are).

    I certainly don't need to buy any additional guns, but please note my opposition to these people isn't based on the idea of them committing crimes. While it is true many are gang members, I consider that an ancillary point. My primary opposition to them is based on simple economics. We, as a nation, can not and should not be responsible for taking care of every single impoverished citizen of the 3rd World who puts dry feet on American soil.

    We have laws that limit the amount of immigrants we are willing to take in. What good is a law when liberals just want to ignore them? There is a reason countries have borders. Without border enforcement, we can no longer even consider the United States a sovereign nation.
     
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    :roflol:

    Yea, Saul Goodman is a real lawyer too.
     
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    It is a lot more solid than the moronic statement that the NY Times is a legit news source, Wilbur.
     
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    Perhaps the fact that Trump is now echoing Bowers' talking points five days later would make Trump part of Bowers' base.
     
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    And today we learned that 5000-14000 isn't the same as countless millions. Thanks Math.

    So the options for the most powerful country on the planet is either a) accept countless millions that will bankrupt this country or b) accept none. And that is what we call a false choice.
     
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    It isnt trolling...someone has to pay to support them and you are downplaying it...why do they get more rights than homeless vets?
     
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    They do not have more rights than homeless vets. Seriously stop.

    In fact, if you gave two shits about homeless vets, how about you demand that Trump not spend millions of dollars to send military equipment and personnel to stop a migrant caravan which is two months away and instead use that money to help some homeless vets.
     
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    So who pays to support the 1000s of starving caravan members? You seem to be dodging this question...i know dems hate facts and statistics but they are a part of life im afraid ..so who pays for it? Im listening
     
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    No, you are not. You are repeating - and poorly might I add - every single right conspiracy and fake rightwing bullshit, without fail.

    Now you want to know who pays for a caravan of asylum seeking migrants? I don't ****ing know, but I imagine that there are quite a few organizations and merciful souls who are willing to help the poor and defenseless. Perhaps they learned from the guy who said this:

    “I was hungry and you did not feed me. I was a stranger and you did not welcome me. I was naked and you did not clothe me.”
     
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    Why does someone have to pay to support them? Aren’t they coming to steal our jobs? Ivanka says we have more jobs than people looking for jobs. Sounds like a win/win
     
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    Take legal immigrants out of the equation and only look at illegal aliens a different outcome...crime.
    See above, take legal immigrants out of the equation.

    Then they are given a court date and released with no bail and are never seen again until they are arrested for some crime by local LE and find themselves in a county jail in a sanctuary city.
     
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    Are you basing either of those "adjustments" on the fact that illegal aliens are, by definition, already criminals? In other words, do you have any reason to suggest that illegal aliens are more likely than legal aliens to commit crimes other than those related to immigration?
     

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