TRUMP CRIES FRAUD AS A DEMOCRAT PULLS AHEAD IN ARIZONA

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  1. ocean515

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    Trolling is a poor replacement for reality. You might try a different approach. Who knows how much a life can improve by avoiding it.
     
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    Until the Repubs get down and dirty with these snakes they'll continue to get smoked on elections. I say recount every election and start cheating just like they have. I have no more faith in the system and believe the Repubs should cheat just in every election just like they do.
     
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    Link?
     
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    Yes, it was fought all over the world. Korea and Vietnam were hot spots, but there were many other places where the struggle between good and evil played out.
     
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    Wow. That’s a sick and disturbed view. I won’t argue with you. It would take months or even years to untangle the illogic.
     
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    “Do much” if they do anything to secure integrity to a free and fair election and don’t infringe on rights explicitly it should be welcomed all around. I haven’t done extensive research on proposed id laws and the language in them so if you have examples of rights being infringed I’d welcome it.
     
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    Nothing I said was wrong.
     
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    And the data shows they lower turnout. Which is their only design. Spare me the sanctimonious flag ****ing.
     
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    What happens after they call and tell them there are discrepancies? A verbal confirmation enough? Does it say how many times they attempt to contact the person? Those seem to be important questions. It’d also be interesting to compare their policies with other counties in Arizona
     
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    Well Id laws only design being to lower turnout is patently false. I’m sure it does lower turnout but asking people to have id to vote is a basic step to insure the integrity of our elections. They ask for id to buy modeling glue ffs. It’s just strange that people want to address a foreign power mettling in our election yet don’t want to take steps that make our elections more secure here.
     
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    Lie. That is their design and their intent, in their current incarnation. I am not going to to respond further to and legitimize this shameless lie. Nothing personal.
     
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    No idea to the above. It's different for different counties. That was part of the suit that happened in Arizona and they came to some sort of agreement that they would standardize the process but I haven't researched what that agreement was.
     
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    Id laws do not prevent oegal voters from voting

    So voter suppression only applies to cheaters
     
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    That’s fine ,maybe your right that they’re true intent is voter suppression but it’s not their only reason. They don’t go on tv and give that reason ,they give secure elections.
     
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    Or people who can’t afford id but everything requires id anymore so it’s a pretty basic idea that you should to cast votes imo. I thought the reason we were upset at Russia was that they were messing up the integrity of the election. As long as the laws do infringe on voters rights then it should be a no brainer
     
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    Thats nice.

    The data shows they suppress turnout. It has already been admitted that this is their intent. So you can stop fighting now, footsoldiers....the war is over, no need to embbarrass yourselves by lying for people who don't need you to lie for them...
     
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    Maybe Clinton should have killed Bin Laden when he had the chance but didn't.
     
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    That has to be the stupidest response ever written here on PF....Congratulations!!!!
     
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    “Estimating the effects of voter ID laws is a tricky business, but the most credible estimates suggest the laws’ turnout effects haven’t been large enough to swing many elections.”

    Benjamin Highton concluded that “a small number of studies have employed suitable research designs and generally find modest, if any, turnout effects of voter identification laws.”


    They tend to poll reasonably well, especially among Republicans. A 2016 AP-NORC poll found that 79 percent of those surveyed favored requiring all voters to provide photo ID, with Republicans especially supportive.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-we-know-about-voter-id-laws/

    “The FBI went public about the threat roughly two months before the 2016 election, issuing a nationwide warning about possible attempts to hack state election offices after intruders hacked voter registration databases in Illinois and Arizona. But it wasn’t until January 2017 that the government blamed Russian operatives for those attacks and accused the Kremlin of targeting 21 states’ election systems.”

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/18/russia-election-hacking-trump-putin-698087


    Russia getting our voter rolls wouldn’t be near as bad if we had id laws no?
     
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    Legal voters have a right to have their vote protected from illegal voters
     
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    Id laws hopefully suppress illegal voters

    Thats the whole idea
     
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    Yeah. Trained. Of course you guys ALWAYS believe everything you read on a Democratic politician's website, right?

    In any case...

    In the case of a non-matching signature, the voter is contacted by mail and/or by phone (if a phone number is listed on the voter’s record) to inform the voter that there are discrepancies with the signature we have on file in comparison to the one appearing on the ballot envelope

    Meaning these people aren't rejecting ballots despite what you and Trump would like.
     
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    Dems are ridiculous. They have been crying for 2 years now about Russia. We all know who cheated and even how they did it. If your a person who does not know then you have work to do. You won't believe if it comes from anyone else. Research
     
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    You're making claim, such as 'racism' that you can't or won't substantiate. Would the reasoning behind all this make you, and other leftists, uncomfortable?
    Perhaps you're correct. I'm not aware of any Republicans voting against voter ID and would wonder why they would. If you have a link I'd certainly like to see it.
    Yes, low incomes affect many people but what has that to do with voter ID?
    Sure, but you refuse to respond to any questions based on your earlier claims, and we both know why.
     
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    Of course it is.
     

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