Can anything be more stupid then Trumps border wall

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  1. jbander

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    22 billion and rising. My 10 dollar solution that I will guarantee will work, go after the businesses that hire these undocumented immigrants. Major fines major jail. but that's not the point is it , the right needs this country to look down on immigrants and people of color, to make them second class citizens that can't be trusted . because demographics puts them in the toilet in no longer then two decades, when the browning of America makes the minorities the majority,personally I can't wait.. They right has to increase their supporters hate of immigrants and people of color.
     
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    If we don't allow them here we won't have to go after businesses.

    Its called being proactive.

    The wall will help accomplish that.

    Because in the meantime, while they are working for these businesses that we have to go after they will also be raping and murdering innocent Americans.
     
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    Your out of here, it's been a slice
     
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    Election results destroyed the wall's chance.
     
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    Open borders is not only stupid, it's suicidal.
     
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    A rather foolish post:

    1) Kind of hard to go after businesses when many laws largely prohibit businesses from inquiring about a persons citizenship or immigration status

    2) Ever notice with so many liberals/progressives that their claim to victory is going to come down to the crude and crass notion of "we will out breed you"?

    Not "we'll win in the marketplace of ideas"
    or "we'll win the hearts and minds of the American people"
    or "we'll be victorious through the American political process".

    No its "we'll outbreed you".

    Finally that misses a larger point I can't believe they don't get

    3) Even when White people make up only 49% or 45% of the American population, why do they think for a moment that things will change? At least not for centuries in the future?

    A) White people with 45% of the American people would still be a minority that would vastly outnumber both in absolute numbers and percentages any other single minority group.
    B) White people will certainly control the majority of wealth and economic power in the U.S. for the foreseeable future anyway.
    C) Given all that, which combination of "brown people" are going to want to piss off the Whites and encourage them to act in concert?
     
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    The wall works, it's just not high enough. Need a 7.6 mile high wall. A lot, probably majority, are coming by plane. Planes don't fly much above 7.5 miles high.
     
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    First where did you get the idea that a wall is a stand alone device? It is only one part of a multilayered approach to defending the border.

    2nd walls are a force multiplier not a force eliminator.
     
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    It will never be built and that is Scum bags epitaph , failure on everything he has tried to do in this country, The right tried to take over this country with hate, that's done, now to put Scum Bag in jail that's next. This will also happen , along with their devastating loss a week ago.
     
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    Even the right who hates everything , including these immigrants knew better.
     
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    The Democrats within just a handful of years went from getting a minority of blacks to vote for them to getting the overwhelming majority. And this despite still having former Klansman in major leadership positions in their party.
     
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    Yes, I've heard stupider things. In fact, I've heard much stupider things from Trump.

    But it's up there in his greatest hits of stupid...............probably in the top 50 or so.
     
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    You know there is approximately zero chance of President Trump ever going to prison don't you? I mean seriously. You think Democrats want to set a precedent that could come back and bite one of their former presidents in the future?
     
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    The only thing you've proven with that gibberish is an inability to construct a coherent thought.

    And the only mistreatment of immigrants is by leftists who want to put them on welfare and then mine there poor increasingly hopeless asses for votes, as they've done with all too many African Americans.
     
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    How unusual, a post that answers in the affirmative the question in it's title with out bothering with the word yes.
     
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    I agree with going after businesses that hire illegals but the rest of your post is pure nonsense.
     
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    You're playing the same lying game the dems always do. The wall is about ILLEGAL immigration. ILLEGAL immigration IS NOT the same as immigration. They are two completely separate things. Stop acting like they are the same as an excuse to attack Republicans.
     
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    I don’t know, they were dumb enough to pack the SC with real judges after being warned. I agree with you but had to stir the pot. And you just never know...avoiding unintended consequences isn’t progressives forte. :)
     
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    That would entail Republicans punishing fellow Republicans. No chance in hell of ever seeing this happen. Instead, it's build a wall at taxpayer expense so that corporations who build it make billions in profits. As always, everything proposed by the GOP is calculated to make money for the wealthy. People vote for that party because they are too blind and too ignorant to realize WTF they are doing.
     
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    Lets have the Wall and harsher penalties for employing illegals. Problem solved.

    Would be fun as a "fly on the wall" (sorry, couldn't resist) when OP finds out it's more Democrats than Republicans who don't want stiffer penalties for hiring illegals. Half the upper class of Democrats in Cali, NYC, and dozens of other areas where illegals do cheap yard and house work for Democrat elites would instantly go to jail.

    Oh, you bought into the lie narrative that Republicans are more "the party of the rich?" Well sorry about that.
     
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    How is the hate party [the GOP] going to get immigrants and minority to vote for it when Rightness have treated them like **** for decades,
     
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    Such a simple problem that has been complicated by politics. You always here about the cost of building the wall (22 billion) but you never hear the cost of Illegal Immigration annually to the tax payer. The Federal government spends a net amount of $45.8 billion on 12.5 million illegal aliens and their U.S.-born children. This amount includes expenditures for public education, medical care, justice enforcement initiatives, welfare programs and other miscellaneous costs. It also factors in the meager amount illegal aliens pay to the federal government in income, social security, Medicare and excise taxes. That amounts to roughly $2,746 per illegal alien, per year.

    That number of crossings per year not captured is around 310,000 per year which averages around 1 billion annually not including violent members or drugs.

    1. Build the wall and stop Illegal Immigration, drugs, MS-13 or at the very least cut it down substantially.
    2. Revamp our out of date application process for people wanting to come in legally to expedite their request
    3. If an applicant has family or a sponsor in the US and qualifies for naturalization eligibility, give them immediate access with a US citizen sponsor held accountable to bring them back upon request.
    4. Allow applicants with US citizen sponsors to live in the US during the naturalization process.

    Doesn't this make much more sense, safeguard our boarder, restrict access to gang members and drugs while making legal immigration easier?
     
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    Of course getting folks to believe this lie is the goal of the lefties propaganda. But it has been effective because the GOP does not effectively present its message.

    Fact is the GOP does not mistreat anyone they just want fairness for all citizens. Somehow the left tries to distort that by kissing the butt of any demographic they can.
     
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    Condor060, please support Actual Facts and Real Sources for your comments.
     
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    One thing that is more stupid than "Trump's border wall" is Trump's nonsensical promise that Mexico will pay for it and the looneytoon members of his cult actually believing Trump's lie.....again, LOL. ;)
     
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