Melbourne attack: One person dead after man sets car on fire and stabs pedestrians

I guarantee his family 'trained' him for this. Either by osmosis, or directly.

 

They don't. They've just been seduced by the idea that western wealth is infinite, and that white people are infinitely powerful. Only those beliefs allow the outrageous hubris of unbridled largesse in regards to the 'peasantry'.

 

Australia has refused to sign a UN agreement on immigration.
America and Hungary are also refusing to sign.
Peter Dutton pointed to the mess in Europe because of millions of undocumented immigrants.

 

Good. I have nothing against assisting refugees (I believe we should, if at all possible), but I'm absolutely against importing such people to western nations they don't need to be in to be relatively safe. It's not only a terrible idea for all concerned for cultural reasons, it's literally playing god. All aid monies should be sent to such peoples to use as they see fit.

 

The question is, at what point do these western nations start becoming unsafe like the rest of world where these refugees are fleeing from?

Take the case of Asia Bibi, after finally being exonerated by a court, she faced near certain death in Pakistan, but she was refused asylum by the UK because the authorities believed the same type of problems would happen there.

 

Western nations are unsafe in varying degrees, but God help us if Australia became similar to say Somalia...that would signify the end....wont happen...

 

So if people are fleeing terrorism in one country, the solution is to move them all to another country?

Yeah.... That will solve the problem...

 

One thing I must say is that I am surprised and somewhat concerned about the lack of Australian responses in this thread.
A terrorist attack in Australia and only two Australian posters apart from me.
Posters from overseas have contributed regularly and by far outnumber Australian contributions.
I suppose thats due our dumb arse "she'll be right mate, whose going to win the footy tonite" attitude.
But then again, Australians have been dumbed down for years..aah well, perhaps off topic here..

 

It certainly hasnt worked in Europe...

 

When they import enough of the kinds of people who like to live life on the edge?

Asia Bibi could have migrated to Mumbai, or even down into South East Asia. She'd be safe there. Why would she need to go to the UK? It's on the other side of the planet (from Pakistan)?

 

I'm at war with no one.

 

No, only those who are under surveillance and caught in the act of planning an atrocity. WTF would I say 'all Muslims' when there are 2 or 3 billions of them?

 

I don't think anyone can dispute that logic. I often wish that I could have a firearm as a last-resort form of self defence. In fact, at significant personal expense I hired a taxi last night for quite a long journey home rather than use a late train. It's seriously annoying to pay taxes but to be on the defensive from non-taxpaying punks all the time.

 

No, they're at war with you, if you want to be pedantic about it. Ever heard of Islamic Jihad? Well it's coming to a town near you. I'd guess that you're very young.

 

OK and I agree, I actually said he should have been deported .

 

They'd laugh at that - they'd get on the deporting plane, get of at the destination, then catch the next civilian flight back. Nope, 'disappearing' them is the answer, and no questions answered. (sic) We have to fight fire with fire or lose - there's no in-between.

 

And just how would they do that lol. No way lol

 

WTF do you mean by how would they do it??

 

Not many Australian responses? That's because we don't get hysterical very easily. Oh may be at closing time in the pub. But as far as this incident goes we know it's a lone nutter so no point in erupting into panic. The right wing pols will stir **** of course, it's what they do thinking we'll get into a lather like our American cousins. We won't. We know that refugees and immigrants are well screened. I mean I work with some people who were refugees, been doing that for about four years and never been stabbed, not even once. Got a stab in the back but that was by a so-called colleague.

 

Seems to be an increasing amount of of these “lone nutters” these days. Funny how they all share a similar reason for their acts of terror. Guess we will just have to live with it, an acceptable collateral for keeping the peace with our Muslim brothers.

Because God forbid we offend with the truth.

If it looks like a sh!t, and smells like a sh!t, good chance it’s a sh!t.

 

Young or just very very naive.

"Because I haven't been blown up yet, and can still be a nose pierced gender fluid Xir walking the streets of my Ivory Tower town in search of soy latte to drink with people who are all just like me and agree with everything I say and think, there is no problem with the Religion of Peace"

 

This.

 

1) It's possible you meant to say 'we're choosing to belief it's a lone nutter ... just as we always do ... to avoid the horrifying potential of being regarded as an islamophobe, and/or that most worstest thing in the world, a racist!'

2) Right. You haven't been stabbed yet so there are no problems with the Religion of Peace in the West.

 

Lone Nutter is code for "I'm not racist!"

 

Exactly right, first it would be a nightmare beyond belief if the non Muslim world were to declare war on 1.8 billion people, secondly it is morally wrong to think that a religion that is followed devoutly by and let's be pessimistic, 1.5 billion people who live peacefully, thirdly of all the things we can do to fight the evil of radical Islam the worst thing we can do is help them by spreading fear and hatred and dividing ourselves.

The radical Islamists are no different from the radical Christians or radical Jew's or the radical Barbie doll collectors. It's the radicalism that is wrong.

A significant number of people believe it is totally the responsibility of the Muslim community to rid us of the radicalism. Does that mean that it is totally the responsibility of Christians to wipe out paedophiles or such.

The entire society is responsible in a manner, there is something in the statements "the evil west" etc. The US among others support what is happening with Israel and the CIA has been manipulating the politics for decades and when the English redrew the borders it was done without thought of historical, religious or cultural reasoning.

I have heard the expression "if it walks like a duck ..." never heard the sh_t one. What about this one. "If it looks like a fish, swims like a fish, it could be a dolphin, get more information."