Gallup: Five Million Central Americans Want to Join Caravans to the U.S.

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  1. Guess Who

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    I heard Trump was sending military medical personal and engineers to set them up a nice little encampment till we can put them through the courts .
    IMO our military is working for them not controlling jack crap.
     
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    You obviously are talking continental drift so you will need to wait 50 to 100 million years for California to drift back down to off Peru or Chile.
     
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    LOL we have open borders apply to Cubans who could reach our shore for fifty years or so.

    The US did not come to an end for having such an open border for generations.
     
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    Ok there you go! "Shut down the brown" , don't be a clown.
     
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    Broward County always seems to have a problem going on.
     
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    Really ? We went from live coverage with “embedded” reporters to “is the caravan still there”, and you dont think that was electioneering ?
     
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    LOL ...........blaming Cubans would not be helpful as a majority of the older Cubans tend to vote for the GOP beginning when Kennedy let them hanging on the beaches of Cuba without support during the US back invasion of the bay of pig,

    In fact, the only thing that you can said bad about Cubans in my opinion is that they tend to support the GOP but that is thankfully wearing off.
     
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    Lib whistling past the graveyard

    This is bad news for the liberal open borders-anti trump wall crowd
     
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    Whether you follow the left-leaning Trump-hating mainstream media or some even nuttier left-wing media sources, I can't speak for your media sources or their motives. On Fox a story about the caravan is 9th on the 'home' page and 1st on the 'World' page. That fact aside though, some reduction in coverage is to be expected partly because people are probably getting bored with the caravan's slow progress, and partly because other things (like the midterm elections, the election recounts, Veterans Day related events, and the devastating California wildfires) have taken priority for the time being. None of that points to "publicity stunt" or "the migrant problem has vanished".
     
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    BREAKING NEWS

    77,777,777 South Argentine Penguins have formally started the March of the Penguins from Isla Grande Del Fuego Argentina ? They plan to march up the coast of Chile and add migrants and illegals as they head north. They plan to be here on the first Tuesday of November 2020 and be ready to vote for Senior Diablo Juan Trumpez for Presedente'.
     
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    At any given period over the last 30 years there have been at least a couple thousand individuals headed toward our borders looking to better their lives. They just didn't announce it. Successive administrations, both Democrat and Republican, have done nothing to stem this except Reagan, who gave blanket amnesty to millions of them. Now some Americans are dumb enough to believe that a wall and a couple of unarmed American soldiers is somehow going to stop this trend. Guess what geniuses? There are a couple thousand miles of open border adjacent to this stupid wall. 99% of it is unguarded.

    The only way you will ever stop this tide is to A. Make it a federal crime to hire an undocumented worker for anything. And make the penalty harsh and financially ruinous for those that get caught hiring them. B. Make Federal Service compulsory for every graduating high school senior. One year picking lettuce and strawberries in the California sun before they can go to college, get married, join the military, etc. C. When that plan fails, re-enact the Guest Worker programs that were so successful in the past.

    But no. For some simpletons building a wall is the only answer.
     
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    Well I feel so much better know :)

    I may have found the problem, history fails you :(

    Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986
    Good old reneging Democrats, and they haven't change for the better in 35 years ;)

    Congress tried to fix immigration back in 1986. Why did it fail?

    Why were the employer restrictions so ineffective?
    During the debate in Congress, the bill's sponsors ended up watering down the sanctions on employers to attract support from the business community, explains Wayne Cornelius of the Center for Comparative Immigration Studies at U.C. San Diego. "The end result was that they essentially gutted the employer sanctions," he says.

    Under the final law, all employers had to do to avoid sanctions was to make sure their workers had paperwork that "reasonably appears on its face to be genuine." If the documents were decent fakes, that wasn't the boss's problem. In fact, employers were actually penalized if they scrutinized a worker's nationality too aggressively.

    What's more, industries such as agriculture, construction and landscaping often skirted the paperwork rules by relying on contractors and subcontractors. That made it easier for companies to maintain plausible deniability. In California, up to 80 percent of seasonal harvesting is done through contractors — and unauthorized immigrants are thought to make up a massive portion of the workforce.
     
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    I watched live coverage of it this morning and yesterday, I'm going out on a limb here, but could it be your sources are purposely keep their viewers in the mushroom barn ;)
     
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    If you don’t think that moving those troops to the border, days before the election, and MONTHS before the caravan would even arrive than your being very disingenuous to the debate.

    Do you think Kemp was being genuine when he removed 53,000 from the rolls, and then the day before the election he started an “investigation” into the Georgia Democratic Party ?
     
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    My whole attitude toward the caravans and their wanna-be illegal alien 'invaders' is changing rapidly in the aftermath of the recent mid-term elections.

    Now, I'm hoping that the many thousands of them will come boiling up to the CALIFORNIA border and spill over into San Diego -- a huge, unstoppable mass of illegal humanity surging right into Southern California with great speed and power.

    I hope that the ICE offices are literally swamped to overflowing with many hundreds of aliens (and their ACLU lawyers), all demanding immediate 'asylum' and threatening to tie up the whole damned government with lawsuits and injunctions if they aren't let into the country and provided with everything they need to begin living here -- immediately!

    I want this whole hysterical, illegal pile of sh*t wiped so thoroughly and enduringly in the faces of CALIFORNIANS that they choke on it and are completely overrun with even more crime, trash, and disease than they are already with mobs of homeless American citizen bums!

    Eat sh*t and die, California! Set up even MORE "sanctuary cities" and spend even more millions of dollars providing handouts to worthless bums -- both "foreign and domestic".... Too bad California didn't go ahead and demand to 'secede' a year ago... we in the United States would be rid of at least a BIG part of our 'immigration' problems.... :twisted:
     
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    Absolutely, this Story is 1000 9/11s and The Creation (combined).

    You can tell by the way that all of the TV Networks have suspended regular programming to give this Cataclysmic Story 24/7 coverage.


    In the run up to the Election Trump made 45 separate Twitter references to "The Border", and 9 mentions of the "Caravan"

    Since the Election? ZERO Twitter mentions of The Border of the Caravan.

    Trump was cynically using Fear of Immigrants as an appeal to low-information voters.

    Now, we have this utterly ridiculous narrative (a Breitbart (Breitbart? :roflol:) story) in the OP.

    Utterly LUDICROUS nonsense.:smfh: :bored:





     
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    Thread close.......thanks for venting what many of us feel.......
     
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    I'm always up for a sane discussion regarding our immigration problems.

    But dozens of caravan outrage threads do not constitute this.

    Not even remotely.

    In fact, this kind of hysteria backfires.
     
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    Yup.
     
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    If CA is flooded with illegals, then they'll do what they do with their homeless people when they can no longer take care of them: Bus them to other states.
     
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    Going back to the OP. So what if 5 million people on South America want to emmigrate to the US. I read in the GOULUP Poll that 50 trillion people in Hell want ice water. Neither will get what they want.
     
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    At least Trump has talked about illegal immigration. It will be back in the headlines but in the short term, Paris and the election bumbles took center stage. The news media always chases low hanging fruit so it will be back..
    if 5 million or 10 million or 30 million all want to come here, Democratic leadership will want to accept them and sign them up to vote. The better question is would we have enough service, food and water to support this mass infiltration? Maybe we just raise taxes to 70% of all those earning 25K or more. How long would that last?
     
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    Well, you can hope. The truth is that this "horde" remains 1,000 miles from the nearest American border and consists of women, children, and kids (some of them male, and all of them brown, oh my!).

    Why are Republicans so freaked out by this? Do you really think that stopping this caravan will reverse the reality that the American landscape is changing in border states? Your Aryan resistance is noted. As a descendent of Mexican Americans, and as the grandson of a WWI veteran, the son of a Navy Korean veteran, and a veteran of two gulf wars myself, I'm calling your BS.

    You should be more concerned with how much your orange idiot has lessened American respect around the world. But you aren't. You kling to some notion of America that only existed in your mind.
     
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    Bullcrap! Borders are real as is a country's sovereignty. The US should not take in all the poor people who want to enter no matter how much hatred you have for white people. Truth is everyone in America will suffer as a result of the border being over run. So your pipe dream of punishing whitey is just that, a pipe dream.
     
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    You must have missed this story in the New York Times yesterday: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/14/world/americas/migrants-caravan-tijuana-border.html . "First Wave of Migrants in Caravan Reaches U.S. Border in Tijuana"

    There are multiple caravans, you see... and the 'vanguard' has already arrived at the border with San Diego. They're HERE, and there's a lot more of them on the way. Anybody who is horrified and disgusted at the prospect of illegal invaders pouring into OUR country would be 'freaked out'... but that obviously does not include radical Democrats who seem to have a perverse desire for the United States to be turned into as big a 'shithole' country as those that the 'migrants' left in the first place....
     
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