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  1. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bipartisan Panel: US Must Prepare for 'Horrendous,' 'Devastating' War With Russia and China
    A bipartisan commission appointed by Congress issued a lengthy report Tuesday backing the Pentagon’s plans to prepare for a “great-power” war against Russia, China, or both, making clear that the Trump administration’s belligerent policies are shared by the Democratic Party.

    Safe in the knowledge that its findings will never be seriously reported by the mass media, the authors of this report do not mince words about what such a war will mean. A war between the United States and China, which according to the report might break out within four years, will be “horrendous” and “devastating.” The military will “face greater losses than at any time in decades.” Such a war could lead to “rapid nuclear escalation,” and American civilians will be attacked and likely killed.
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    Those who actually make policy—a select group of high-ranking members of Congress, Pentagon officials, and think-tank staffers, as well as White House aides—speak an entirely different language among themselves, and in publications they know the general public will not read, and the media will not seriously report.
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    The latest example of such plain speaking comes in the form of a new report published by the National Defense Strategy Commission, a body set up by Congress to assess the Pentagon’s new National Security Strategy, issued early this year, which declared that “great-power competition—not terrorism—is now the primary focus” of the US military.
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    The solution, the report concludes, is a much bigger army, funded by consistent, multi-year increases in spending. “There is a need for extraordinary urgency in addressing the crisis of national defense,” it writes.

    The army needs “More armor, long-range fires, engineering, and air-defense units.” The Air Force needs “more stealthy long-range fighters and bombers, tankers, lift capacity, and intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance platforms.” The nuclear forces need more missiles. And so on and so forth.

    To pay for all this, social services are to be gutted. “Mandatory entitlement programs drive spending growth,” the report complains, demanding that Congress address these programs, which include Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. It warns that “such adjustments will undoubtedly be quite painful.”
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    In listing the various challenges to the United States fighting and winning a war against Russia or China, none of the distinguished members of the committee arrived at the seemingly obvious conclusion: that maybe the United States should not fight such a war.
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    Sorry, this post took off on me prematurely! Please, read the entire article here:
    https://russia-insider.com/en/print/25414
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    Is it possible that this is just another fake news article?
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't even see that! I got so flustered when my post took off by itself. But... what is wrong with Global Research? I have used that source lots of times. I always thought it was one of the better alternative sites available.

    From the web:
    "Global Research (Centre for Research on Globalization ...
    https://www.facebook.com/GlobalResearchCRG
    Global Research is a great independent media source and I am really grateful for all the research an... d reporting the contributors do on behalf of the public."

    Too bad I'm not a facebook subscriber and can't read the whole post, perhaps you can?
     
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    Of course you love it
    It's well known anti-West, antisemitic, Conspiracy Garbage.
    you DO use it/them all the time.
    That IS a problem.
    They should ALL go in the Conspiracy section, along with most of your other 'stuff'.

    You did NOT cite ant credible link/backing for Global Research..
    Just ....
    Global Research own pages
    LOFL

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch

    Globalresearch is an "anti-Western" website that can't distinguish between serious analysis and discreditable junk — and so publishes both.
    It's basically the Moonbat equivalent to Infowars or WND.

    While some of GlobalResearch's articles discuss legitimate humanitarian concerns, its view of science, economics, and geopolitics is Conspiracist — if something goes wrong, the Jews West didit!

    The site has long been a Crank magnet: If you disagree with "Western" sources on 9/11, or HAARP, or vaccines, or H1N1, or climate change, or anything published by the "mainstream" media, then GlobalResearch is guaranteed to have a page you will love.


    The website (under the domain names globalresearch.ca(link), globalresearch.org(link), globalresearch.com(link), and sister site mondialisation.ca(link)) is run by the Montreal-based non-profit The Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG) founded by Michel Chossudovsky,[2][3] a former professor of economics at the University of Ottawa, Canada.[4]

    Whenever someone makes a remarkable claim and cites GlobalResearch, they are almost certainly Wrong.

    Do Not confuse Globalresearch with globalnews.ca, which is a perfectly ordinary news site.
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    and tons more at link above.
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Very good! BUT... Trump himself regards the MSM as fake news. So. why should I take them serious?
     
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    We absolutely should not fight this war. We absolutely should prepare as if we had to!
     
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    Globalresearch.ca......canadian website specializing in tinfoil hat conspiracies!:)))
     
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    If Trump says they're fake they're good as gold to sane people
     
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    Yes. Let's push grandma off the cliff and send the money to Lockheed for more F-35s. Who needs bridges and old people.
     
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    Agree with you on Globalresearch but you do know similar stories of US prep for war has been reported in Foreign Policy and Military Insider pubs too, right?
     
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    If Russia and China combined have anything even close to our military strength then we will go bankrupt before we even come close to catching them since we spend something like 6x what the ENTIRE WORLD does on military now.

    The Soviet Union collapsed because they tried to match our military spending and we drove them into bankruptcy. Now it looks like we are about to do that to ourselves
     
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    I love this fallacy! Keep em coming.
     
  13. Jazz

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    Yes, and don't we all know how much the USA loves war?! The trouble is, they are in this position of being the world's policeman, they can't relax, or someone else will take their position and that would mean payback time!
    THAT is the Americans' biggest fear and why they are so aggressive.
     
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    Explain how that is a fallacy
     
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    Fake or not, it certainly is propaganda favoring greater military spending.
     
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    Global policeman's what they tell themselves but its got nothing to do with it. It is all about hegemony over resources and political power over competitors.
     
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    Ah, yes... I forgot about the resources. That is it!! Enormous amounts of even some rare Earth elements were discovered.
    Check here:
    ...copper, cobalt, iron, barite, sulfur, lead, silver, zinc, niobium, and 1.4 million metric tons of rare-earth elements (REEs) were discovered.
    https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/afghanistans-rare-earth-element-bonanza
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    No wonder the US isn't leaving from the region!
     
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    It’s crazy how many actual Soviet supporters are in this forum.

    Shows you what is actually coming from the Russian government.

    But people like Jazz and Destoryer say some pretty hilarious stuff as they try to be so anti American

    It’s comical when they try to compare the US to utopia, but refuse to compare themselves to the socialist hell they produced in their time on the world stage
     
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    As for "Soviet supporters"......misery likes company;))!
     
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    May I offer you a piece of New Yorker cheese cake? It's a left-over from this afternoon?
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    Extra for you, Draco! I added the flag!:)
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Am glad to hear that! Who wants another devastating war?!!
    This afternoon an elderly lady visited me. I was astonished when she told me that she and her family walked on foot from Dresden to Berlin, to escape the Russians.
     
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    I'd walk, too.
     
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    Me, too!
     
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    I looked it up... it is about 200 km and takes 48 hrs and 15 minutes by foot!!!
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    Fahrzeit zu Fuß:
    ~48 h 15 m
     
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