Gun purchasers may need to submit social media history under proposed New York legislation

They'll accuse you of destroying evidence and refuse you

 

So, to be clear your stance is something along the lines of "Those who have nothing to hide, have nothing to fear."?

Eh Goebbels?

 

I've always known that destroying the second amendment would require destroying the first

 

That's all fine and good until someone taps into their cell phone w/o a warrant

 

Or puts them on the secret list of those whose rights have been curtailed because a different faction is in power and things which were fine are now double plus ungood.

 

The left would - love - to put people on double-secret probation, and then have them prosecute when they try to buy a gun.

As long as they're white Christian males.

 

for those that love that this idea lets use the same exact rules for going to a mosque, after all Muslims as the biggest terror threat in the world. Would you say that is ok? If not why is it ok for gun owners to have to go though it?

 

Gun grabbers would say that you clearly have something to hide, and they should confiscate your guns until they figure out what that is...

 

Authoritarians. They want to control everything.

 

You are still tracked. You still leave a trail. For example, web sites ask your computer about its configuration so the site can communicate properly with your browser, such as asking what fonts your computer recognizes. Not all computers have the same font list. Your computer sends a list of fonts, and that list forms the basis of a signature of your computer. A font list is not enough to uniquely id you, but combined with other simple data your computer provides your unique signature can be found.

Erasing cookies, browser history, temp files, recent url lists, mru's, caches, etc. stops basic tracking but groups seriously interested in tracking you are not deterred. Are google and other groups that make a fortune off of collecting personal data going beyond basic tracking methods such as cookies etc? Almost certainly, they have the resources and access to your computer.

 

Personal data has become a valuable commodity, competing with primary products and services offered by big tech.
Under the EU’s new privacy laws, based in part on Germany’s privacy laws, the EU has been having a multi country tech watchdog investigating privacy invasion and personal data collection and the marketing of it by the big techs and even other tech providers. To those following the investigations and to many in the US the following article came as no surprise.
https://phys.org/news/2018-11-google-accused-track-users.html
It is but the tip of the proverbial iceberg. Google and others track everything from on-line browsing histories, purchases, and far more. Google’s response is the same as Microsoft’s statement in their Window 10 user agreement justifying collecting data and telemetry from users, that they are doing it to be able to improve user experiences. While you can supposedly turn off tracking by Google and delete the data that has been collected, like the NSA, there are no guarantees you actually can. With W10, I spent a great deal of time finding and disabling telemetry from being sent to Microsoft, doing far more than most users might attempt, but using network traffic sniffing SW I still find it impossible to turn completely off. Then, I have found MS with it’s required ongoing updates to their OS (can’t turn off) periodically resets/turns enables telemetry settings that have been disabled.
The question is, what happens when that data becomes weaponized? Well, that the answer to that question isn’t that difficult to project. Knowledge is power and power backed with broad knowledge of the populace’s secrets can become self perpetuating.

 

You cannot make MS Windows safe. Partly its because the internet itself is based on openness, interface communications standards are open source, programs and operating systems and hardware firmware all talk to each other, that open sharing of data allows all those software and hardware items to work properly. And of course that openness is being abused.

True, you can set flags in Windows and your phone to "turn off tracking", but it does not really help. You can tell Google to delete your data, they won't no matter what they claim, they might say they will "anonymize" the data and keep it but that means nothing.

Many people dont ask why google and twitter and facebook are "free" yet rake in billions of dollars. Almost nobody clicks on those ads, so where is the money coming from? You and I know the answer.

Its already weaponized. Google essentially ran and runs obama's OFA, and while obama was President OFA was used in a partisan but positive way to get the "correct" people to vote and as a secondary goal to get the "correct" people active in their community, its a tiny step to go negative.

Microsoft, Google, OFA etc. know who is not "correct", its a simple matter to target those peoples neighbors, or to to drop a little bit of data to antifa or BLM. No doubt its already happening to high profile conservatives such as Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro and Sarah Sanders etc.

 

While many in the US are aware, many more still blindly (few read user agreements) and voluntarily allow malicious software to be installed on their devices. For instance, I have seen many people when installing apps on their Mobil devices not only not read UAs, but when asked during installation if access to resources and data having no relevance to the app, people will mindlessly allow it without asking why that access is needed (there are lists out there of the worst privacy violation apps).
In Ireland, it has been illegal for decades to collect and keep databases of personal information, but it was routinely abused by government agencies and by offshore companies such as Amazon. It has been the subject, along with anti-trust, of suits against companies like Google, Microsoft, Facebook, and Apple over the last decade. But, Germany, with its more stringent prohibitions to privacy violations, managed to get concensus to enact the GDPR which is now being used in suits against this practice.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation
Will they be successful? Doubtful. Many governments might object to privacy violations, but many, including the US salivate over having backdoor access to the data.
The days of anonymity and liberty are numbered. An interesting recent movie that touches on this is ANON playing now on Netflix. Just be aware, your viewing of it may mark you as a subversive in someone’s database.

 

I'm sure just being on this forum has put us all on lists. The govt certainly knows all of our political leanings. The real question conservatives have to deal with is whether to try to hide by not speaking out, or to speak out and oppose the tyrants. Not speaking out wont do any good in the long run.

 

Some of us are easier to track than others and easier targets.

 

And some make themselves deliberate targets to draw attention away from more important individuals to allow them to more easily go unnoticed.

 

You are wrong as usual. Its the fanatics that worship guns above all else that are the problem.

 

Prove it?

 

A simple "prove it?" in response will make him go away.

 

Prove it. Lol

 

Troll's gonna troll, people. It doesn't mean anyone needs to respond to the trolling.

 

They can be frustrating and become obvious and known, but can be useful because they reflect the worn dogma, they are virtually never presenting well crafted arguments, of the left which can be debunked by principled and rational based argument that provides contrast to those undecided about issues. Trolls can’t sustain rational argument and ultimately end up supporting the opposing side of the cause they claim to advocate for.
I would wager, if a poll of write in candidate names for the Troll tag were held, the same names would be prevalent across most lists.
I personnaly examine initially two types of posters when initially opening on the forum, those whose opinions I find rational and of value, and the Trolls to see what absurdities they are posting at the moment.
I am all for free speech, but I reserve the right to laugh at some of it and to form my opinions of character based on it.

 

when you can find someone who actually worships guns-get back to me. right now I see lots of people who lose bladder control if they think their neighbors might own guns. I see foreigners who whine about our rights -first of all-why should we care what they think?

 

Look around. Lots of people seem to care more about guns than people

 

first off, there's no laws mandating everyone to have a pc, internet connection, nor any other device, until there is, they can't judge you based upon it.

secondly, whether or not you use vpn's, blocker browsers, you most likely have an isp & they know all traffic between your device and the internet , there's no way to hide it from your isp...

thirdly, how can they prove who was on your internet connecrion, many people share one device/computer, are they going to start 'guilt by association', if so everyone will be denied because you must know your neighbor and she goes off on social media...

dangerous path they travel...