Naval Sea Battle In Azov Sea - Russia captured 3 Ukrainian Ships

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  1. Striped Horse

    Striped Horse Well-Known Member

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    The question is who deleted it? The forum mods usually take several days to get around to sanctions, not just a few minutes. Was it someone else who deleted it? Someone closer to your unit perhaps? For stepping over the mark?

    But tell me, was it the chemical reference I made to your evening partying that annoyed you, Peter.

    To be perfectly honest, I really didn't think it was Shrooms and or Ayahuasca you'd consumed you know. Both are mind-expanding substances............. and quite obviously you've never come close to having that experience.

    That stuff is not really the sort of thing a man of your haircut and posting should be enjoying is it?
     

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    In fact, I'm not surprised anymore about some Americans in the forum and in general and in which dream world they are.
    The ignorance and arrogance shown here in many things, all too often borders on stupidity and total loss of reality .... yes, even to hypocrisy.

    Unfortunately, when it comes to the topic here, I also notice that the other side is not that different in these matters either.
    Where is this allegedly attacked by the Ukraine Russian fishing boat, which is mentioned in the OP? Once again total propaganda BS, because not even Russia itself leads such an incident on what their reasoning and position on the matter.

    With regard to the Crimea and its annexation by Russia, I am rather adjusted so that I have no real problem, as I have said countless times in this forum. However, but I have a problem with it if Russia from this annexation ... which is internationally accepted by no one else ... make such absurd territorial and sovereign claims as now, which declare the Street of Kerch and the Sea of Azov to be a Russian inland waters and Ukraine must ask for access, etc., although they themselves have a large part of the coast there!

    Someone of the Pro-Russian people here should imagine if Danmark declares the entry to the Baltic Sea to be theri territory and all other countries have to ask for permission to cross it with their vessels. Rediculous comparison? No ... at least the same!

    Yes, I have read in our national media also that Trump threatens not to go to the G-20 meeting / to meet with Putin there etc.

    As for the rest of your post ... It is a fact that the US not only bring democracy to countries with weapons content ... the US also supported and still support many dictators who oppressed their people and they helped suppress any democracy movement in these countries to keep their puppet in power!
    And then we have also ... as mentioned by Striped ... the case that the US starts a war or fuels into an existing conflict and everything is then really messed up ... but as soon as that starts to become stupid and uncomfortable as in Vietnam or Iraq, they pull out of the affair with a "mission accomplished" and leave the mess to others!
     
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    It wasn't like Washington and Moscow were going to become best buddies in 1990 after the Soviet Union fell. The new Russia was still a communist country which is a natural enemy of America's capitalist country. I seriously doubt Moscow was that naive. As for the 20 million expatriates of Russia, they made their choice to stay. I hope Putin doesn't think they are worth starting a war with NATO in which Russians could end up losing everything.
     
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    Then your certainty is flawed.

    I mean all the spoils that the Nazis plundered from across Europe. Included are also the offshore investments, profits, assets and blueprints et al of the State and the main German Industrialists that they took with them to Latin America.
     
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    It's NATO/the West moving eastward that Putin's worried about, and with good reason? I seriously doubt that Putin has any ambition to move westward. Why TF can't we just mind our own ****ing business for a change? It's not as if we're wise enough to know what's best in a given situation, because we're most certainly not wise enough. If we were we wouldn't keep on ****ing up all over the place.
     
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    To clarify; are you saying that Russia today is a communist state?
     
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    Maybe it was a breach... Oh no...

    And I don't mind expanding substances at all... Goshhh... where'd you learn this language? East of Urals? Sad...
     
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    I believe "MyFirst" neatly dealt with this concern.
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    ry running traffic through a critical rush hour intersection without a Stop Light
    Especially considering the very direct & overt US encouraged Ukrainian threats
    ...........to take out the bridge. I believe Russia has good cause to take such threats
    .........................................................................................Seriously

    Perhaps a Review:
     
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    Or because Bush was 'connected.'
     
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    Civil War brings an End to the Divide. If done correctly.


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    Dumb ! - So its Dumb to defend one's country and its critical infrastructure.
    What would the US do IF Russia was able to, and made a credible threat
    ........to sail up the Hudson and take out the George Washington Bridge ?

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    ho defines Dumb ? - You or the Dinosaurs in Washington ?

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    Er, let me see. Ayahuasca is strictly Latin America. :laughing:

    If that is East of the Urals in your geography then I guess that's where I leant it.
     
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    It's only Dumb to defend your country if you're Poroshenko, right? Then you're obviously in the wrong, like automatically and unquestionably.
     
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    Ah the mythical "military/industrial complex" and the myth of the greedy defense contractors. Try doing some actual research and you would find that the profit margins in the defense industry are pretty modest at best. If selling to the military is so lucrative why don't you have new companies routinely popping up to try their hand at selling weapons systems and support to our militaries and those of our allies. ?
     
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    Of course Bush was connected. His father had been Senator. He had been in Congress and been the de facto ambassador to China. He tried and tried to get Nixon to name him as Vice President both in 1972 and after Agnew resigned but was largely blocked by Donald Rumsfeld (his historical political enemy).
     
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    The point is not the profit margins of the defense industry, which may or may not be as you claim, the point is that the war on terror was brought under fraud. Tax payers and the federal treasury are being plundered by war profiteers doing well by a war brought under fraud.
     
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    Hmmm you seem to have some strictly deep knowledge about Ayahausca...
    East of Urals is a cafe in Melbourne at the Eastern side of the city by the way. It's open only on Easter dawns.
     
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    And his senior Prescott Bush was connected to the same gang of thieves. Bankers and industrialists who actually supported Hitler. The Bush connection to spies and thieves is very old indeed.
     
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    fraud? The 9-11 attacks were quite real.
     
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    Another myth, the "Nazi" that George Prescott Bush was connected to "supported" Hitler so much that Hitler had him thrown into a concentration camp.
     
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    Yes they were, but AQ didn't pull them off. It was an inside job. The attacks were real but the story was a hoax. Cui Bono? Israel and the military industrial complex.
     
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    Ah, a 9-11 truther. You're in the wrong forum. We have a special one for conspiracy mongers such as yourself. Go there. You have no credibility whatsoever here.
     
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    To clarify, Russia is not a capitalist country.
     
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    Dancing in the foreyard of another world power is even for a world power stupid ... and more stupidity is given, if this dancing world power demands and thinks they can do what they want and the other has only to accept.
    In 2009 there was a crisis between Russia and Ukraine, and back then idiots in the West had nothing better to do and rant "bad Russia" and give Ukraine the prospect of EU and NATO membership ... really stupid behavior!
    At that time, Putin had clearly made an announcement: OK, if Ukraine becomes a member of NATO, then the Crimea and the Donbass goes to Russia.
    At that time the West had laughed about it ... I hardly believe that anyone is still laughing today!
    Of course, you can complain about what Putin allows himself here and how rude that is ... but ... unfortunately, others and above all, the US do the same in other places in the world and especially in their front yards, if there is someone foreign dancing around, speak in the case of the USA then the Caribbean and Central America!

    About the scond part I have still written tat I see in core the same way as you ... ;-)
     
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    If you let me know what Ward you're confined in I'll try and send you some educational materials and maybe an Orange or some other citrus fruit as you seem to be living in almost complete darkness.



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    Hilarious. When I prepare the citrus fruit parcel for you I can also include newspaper ads for the young nightclub comic job you're after if you wish?

    I've stated this before, but in a different life I was an executive in a division of a major international bank that specialised in arms financing. The profits in the defence industry range from very handsome to enormous. And that doesn't cover all the kick-backs and off-book stashing of black funds either.



    If you had the slightest idea what you're talking about - and very clearly you don't - you wouldn't even have posed this question in the first place. It reveals your naïveté.
     

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