Alaska Looting!

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  1. Reality

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    Desperation en masse leads to a complete breakdown of the established order, allowing things like greed and envy to the surface. Theft of wealth is a common side effect. Particularly since rioters have never been accused of great intelligence.
     
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    Stipend from .gov = you get paid no matter what.
    Minerals being produced and you having a share of those proceeds = you get paid only if the minerals are produced.

    That's a significant difference right there. Need I continue?
     
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    And as we all know, oil being produced in Alaska is up in the air and not a given, right?
     
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    Its funny though, there were pics of white people "looting" in NO after Katrina, guess what they were photograph as having...it wasn't the above mentioned luxuries.
     
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    Shoot any race that loots. Define the targets by their behavior, not their color.
     
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    Why is it you ignored my post #64 where I showed you the poor get at a minimum of $16k a year, but you keep groaning on about the $2k stipend in AK?
     
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    The question was about why blacks were taking jerseys, shoes and TVs while whites got necessities. You blamed it on poor people being poor and greed taking over. I showed you that its a wrong presumption to believe that all poor people will act the same. AK is 90%+ white, and there is no looting where the earthquake hit. Ive shown that the $2k stipend is "crumbs" compared to normal government handouts, so basic allowances for living is a bogus claim. Some people showed how there was looting in heavy gun zones of NO and Houston, so AK gun population is suspect. What other excuses can people come up with of why AK isn't looting and why NO and Houston did? NO and Houston are democrat cities if you want to measure that where most of AK is republican. Different set of values there.
     
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    Yes, I should instead consider your theory that some races are just inclined to loot.
     
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    Well, since I have destroyed your theory that $2k stipend isn't the reason for no looting, maybe you should stop trying to present it. You don't have to adopt anything else, but maybe you should present another theory that hasn't been debunked.
     
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    I'll grant you the stipend doesn't seem to be a controlling factor. I care more about debunking the argument that guns are the controlling factor, which they clearly aren't.

    But you can continue with your racist idea that certain people are genetically predisposed to looting.
     
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    You've got a funny idea about how businesses work friend. Pay outs are not anything like guaranteed in the oil business.
    In fact, I myself worked on a case about a houston based company that tried to get into the alaska market. Alaska has interesting geology making it harder to gauge than say, the gulf of mexico. They drilled a few dry holes and went tits up. The native ( tribal) corporation they'd been working with who owned the land? They ended up with diddly and a bunch of holes in the ground.
    And there was much litigation.
     
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    And the land owned by the state of Alaska? That never generates money and definitely hasn't consistently generated money for decades.
     
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    No it's a different world up there. If I need meat i go hunting or fishing, sometimes both. There isn't a Walmart or convenience store on every corner...my property isn't available by road, only by boat....life is far different from the lower 48.
     
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    You have to be a real American with the pioneer spirit to live in America's last frontier.

    Anyone know what Alaska's emigration rate is ?

    What they no longer teach in our schools today, historically correct history.

    Before the 1965 immigration act that allowed immigrants from shithole countries to migrate to America, the uneducated, unskilled, poverty prone, 1/3 of all immigrants who came to America just didn't have the American spirit and got back on the boat and returned to the Old Country.

    Today the world losers come to America, like all of the free stuff and don't go back home where they should have stayed.


    Return Migration
    Another factor in intensifying the impact of immigration is a reduced rate of emigration — that is, more of today's newcomers stay for their whole lives, rather than returning to the old country after a few years. Note that in the 1930s, emigration was higher than 100 percent, meaning that during the Great Depression more people left the country than entered.





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    Those are the conditions near Anchorage where the quake happened?
     
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    So maybe it’s an urban problem. What’s different about urban areas? Welfare recipients? Democrats? Low legal gun ownership rates?

    Why was looting worse in New Orleans than Houston? I used to work in New Orleans about 2-3 months/year before Katrina. I’ve only been there 3 days since the hurricane. Businesses abandoned New Orleans. What’s the difference?
     
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    Utter failure by the government to help people with basic survival? But Brownie sure did a heck of a job, didn't he?
     
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    Who is "Brownie"?

    You have a point with government failure. School Bus Nagins put his family safe in DFW and let empty school busses get flooded instead of using them to evacuate people. Governor Landrieu didn't know that the feds couldn't help until the state asked for help. Bush had federal aid sitting on I-10 for days before the governor asked for the help. Meanwhile, the national guard was confiscating guns from people in their own homes while gangs looted, raped, and murdered with impunity. Government failure.
     
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    Got it. So for about 47% of Americans, $2000 makes an enormous difference. To the rest, it's just crumbs. Anyone who actually pays any income taxes is just rollin' in dough.....I'm sorry, that simply demonstrates the disconnect Democrats have towards the average taxpayer.
     
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    I never said anything about genetics, I did say culture though. Democrats seem to love to take what isn't theirs and both Houston and NOs are heavily democrat cities.
     
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    Michael Brown, Bush's FEMA head during Katrina. A guy who prior to taking over FEMA had never worked in disaster relief and was the commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association. But he was friends with the prior FEMA director so...
     
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    Where are you getting that 47% from? Is this the same bullshit claim that Romney made?
     
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    White Republicans in the Carolina did plenty of taking stuff that wasn't theirs during the hurricanes there, but for some reason that gets called "scrounging" instead of "looting". I wonder why?
     
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    It generates money based upon things actually created under the leasing of the mineral rights.
    If paying quantities aren't generated they don't pay. As deposits are exhausted or dry holes drilled, what's paid goes down. As things are opened up and produced, what's paid goes up.
    This is because its not a stipend from the .gov. Its payments on a lease you own a part of.
     
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    How did he fail? FEMA had aid waiting at the LA state line on I-10 before Landrieu asked for the help.
     

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