Theology in the public schools

For example, according to statistics 92% of atheists favor same sex marriage and 87% believe in abortion. Christian values are opposite of this. However, you constantly bring up this point that I think of myself as somewhat superior to you because I call myself a Christian. This is on God to decide according to my beliefs. Also, I have never said that Christians in particular are more hardworking than others religious groups. Why are you making things up? I respect everyone(including you)however, I find it amazing how much Christianity has been bashed here. I ask again, what is so bad about my position to have opportunities for children to learn about religion of their choice in public school? Some answered because it is public, like religion is not part of every day life in America and therefore must be banned. Using that logic we should ban all public Christmas celebrations.

 

How old are you?? I'm almost 50 and the worst religious indoctrination I was subjected to in public school was my 3rd grade teacher making us say a prayer before entering the lunch room. And even that was illegal and Unconstitutional, though at that point I had no concept of that. Theology of ANY kind has no business in public schools. You want to indoctrinate your kid, pay the tuition for a religious school of your choice.

 

I'm for separation of church and state.
I'm not into organized religion but do know America was better when there were packed church's all across the land.
We did have problems in the early era with a few religions like the Jesuits and the Mormons. Who Massacred others like other Mormons and the French Huguenot's .

 

So you are OK with the schools teaching Islam and Hindu religions.

 

It isn't a matter of "teaching the religions", it is teaching about cultures and their religions.

 

As part of a comparative religion or humanities course, you bet your bippy, buddy.

 

Would you believe you and I agree on your stance?

 

They work together as in religious faith which is what we are talking about and should not be taught by the government.

 

I'm an "atheist" and do not support same sex marriage or abortion. And I don know where you get your numbers but at least as far as abortion.

About six-in-ten white evangelical Protestants (61%) think abortion should be illegal in all or most cases.

By contrast, 74% of religiously unaffiliated Americans say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, as do two-thirds of white mainline Protestants (67%).

Catholics are somewhat more divided; 51% say abortion should be legal in all or most cases and 42% say it should be illegal.
http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/

Not necessarily but those are issues, I asking about fundamental morals and principles.

I merely ask what are these morals and ethics you claim to hold which I don't which you seem to claim are higher than mine and you insinuate belong to Christians.

You said

Hard work is not unique to Christians and the some you are talking about are not uniquely athiest. People of all beliefs built America and made America what it is.

I've not bashed Christians at all?

Why should religious faith be taught by the government? Is your church doing that bad a job? Why don YOU teach your children your religion of choice? Why would you even want a government deciding what religious faith to teach, what to teach about it and then have a government employee teach it? And how could every religion be possibly taught in a public school?
I am all for religious establishments having their churches and Sunday schools and private schools and you practicing your religious faith to your little hearts desire. Just keep it out of OUR government.

 

save it for Sunday school, if your Sunday School sucks so bad or your worried about leaving your children alone with the Preacher.. I suggest picking a new Church

Christians did not want public schools teaching their children Christianity as they could not agree on what version of Christianity to teach, mainly Catholics and evangelicals conflicted - Christians infighting is why it's not taught in public schools

 

No, they are not.

We should not teach anti-Godism is public schools, though.

 

Classes including religion will be found in public school offerings in history, comparative religions and faiths, sociology, etc.

 

We don’t teach anti god. Not teaching about religion, is not the same as teaching anti god. No mention of any god or gods should be in any public school, other than in historical cultural context.

 

We should't teach either.

 

Give me some examples of these courses you are talking about.

 

I don't think there should be any mandatory religious classes, but I think they should be available as electives.

 

Our Founding Fathers were VERY big on the idea that Christian precepts and values were a BIG part of education. In fact, they warned we would not remain free without them. What they didn't want was a State sponsored Denomination which several states had at the time of our founding. They relinquished those rights in obedience to the Constitution. Godless progressives have since perverted their meaning.

 

Those are some good options. However public schools do teach values. The absence of values in schools are values in themselves. The values of "to each his own" and "expression is always good no matter what".

 

Pro-Godist evangelicals can be dangerous in that they will impose their beliefs on everyone.

Anti-Godist libertarians can be dangerous in that they will impose their beliefs on everyone.

So don't let either side get control of the government.

 

Classes including religion will be found in public school offerings in history, comparative religions and faiths, sociology, etc.

Look up the schools and courses, Bluesguy. This is common knowledge that you can source yourself. Then look up the syllabi.

 

It's your claim about the public schools not mine. Which ones and what kind of courses?

 

No, it was an unfounded claim that they did not exist, and, as usual, on these matters, I corrected such an assertion.

If anyone can do so, please support it with substantive evidence.

Radium give a great answer to Bluesguy, who would well self served in following the advice to him.

 

How can I compare myself to you if I don’t know you? I told you already about my stand on this-it is up to God to decide as he knows what is in everyone’s heart. You want to make fun of ‘beings’ -your choice but please don’t waste my time asking same questions over and over because you then show inability to accept my answers.
It was repeatedly said that public universities have these classes under the same or similar names. You can send one protest note about this if you like but constantly asking about how government is involved in this gives an impression that you have a hard time to deal with the facts.

Also, you claim to be an atheist but put “” now, not me. You must decide who you are and what you believe in.
Another advice to you is when you ask questions let them be of some quality, otherwise you will give a bad impression.

I decline to continue discussion with you.

 

As has already been pointed out, similar classes exist in public colleges. The biggest problem I see would be the parents, not the teachers or the students -- parents demanding that their religion be given special treatment in the class. I think most HS geography classes cover comparative religion to an extent as well. I feel like learning about world beliefs is worthwhile, especially as an elective. The only thing I find questionable is the execution.

 

I think you are trying to pass your responsibilities off on the public school system. If you want to brainwash your children at least have the decency to do it yourself.