Left Opens War On All Religious Schools By Targeting Where Karen Pence Works

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  1. chris155au

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    I meant that Western Muslims aren't doing any of it as part of their institutional culture.
     
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    Harvard is very intolerant of Asians and finagles the admission process to stop Asians from getting in.
     
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    True. But that is coming with a larger population presence.
     
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    "Finagles?"
     
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    They just hate.

    Anti-Christian Ideology Is an Emerging Aspect of White “Progressive” Populism.

    Who can forget the avatar of progressive populism himself, Bernie Sanders, in 2017 aggressively grilling a nominee for the Office of Management and Budget over his theological views on the differences between the Christian and Muslim faith? He actually said that the nominee was “not someone who this country is supposed to be about.” And of course Dianne Feinstein famously rebuked Trump judicial nominee Amy Coney Barrett by declaring that the “dogma lives loudly within you, and that’s a concern.”

    This week, in response to my defense of Christian education (I attended a Christian college, sent my three kids to a Christian school, and served as the chairman of the school board of their school), an activist started an “Expose Christian Schools” hashtag designed to elicit stories of the terrible things Christian educators do.​
     
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    The only ones who are the victims are those that blindly accept that this is how thing are supposed to be and do nothing to change it. It's funny you should bring up painting people as persecuted in a thread about the imagined persecution of Christians and nobody divides people like the Right.

    Also, no absolutes for the Left? No, we absolutely believe that discrimination is wrong. We absolutely believe that fascism is wrong. We absolutely believe that a more diverse culture is right and we absolutely believe that a more fairly distributed economy is right.
     
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    If you believe these things why in the world won't you and the other leftist in this country act like adults and actually walk the walk.. Example: ANTIFA is fascist by its very nature.

    Your talk is cheap and smells of rancid hypocrisy.
     
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    So what do you think we should do?
     
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    Start acting responsibly and cooperate with the goal of trying to solve actual problems.

    But that in itself is a problem for the Progressive eites. Big government and elitist control thrives on continuous failure.
     
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    Rancid hypocrisy is epitomized by an abject FAILURE to condemn the white supremacy movement while calling out ANTIFA which only exists because there is a white supremacy movement.
     
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    Big government and elitists. Two of the many boogeymen hiding under the beds of conservatives. It's funny though, when you turn on the light, they always seem to disappear.
     
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    Someone you know?
     
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    and you are absolutely against family and what it means to be a father or mother and pave the way for your children to have a prosperous life with the ability to help others along the way. It appears you see the government in the role of the "great equalizer" confiscating property and redistributing it to make everyone equal as they see fit.

    I always thought America was about equal opportunity......not equality that everyone wears the same Mao suit.
     
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    The Boogeyman is very real. Algore flies in private jets and Nanci Pelosi has made over $100,000,000 off of government yet she wants to redistribute everyone else's wealth.
     
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    I'll chime in this now.

    The 1st Amendment provides a wide and deep set of protections for religious beliefs and practice and since its an Amendment is superior to Federal Law only another Amendment or a Treaty can influence this so any religious school can decide who may teach, morality and activities of teachers and staff and students and uphold whatever values they care to have unless its dangerous or unlawful in a way which compels a government involvement. An example child abuse sexually and such and not reporting it is one major example. Students if they are gay at the school in question cannot attend now say the person was in therapy for gay attraction but not openly gay it would be treated likely differently since they would be getting 'help for their deviance'. Sorry for being blunt but that is the case in such a school it was when I attended a religious High School a young lady got pregnant and was removed from school for a year and if a woman was raped and impregnated then they could stay in school. If you were openly gay then you got booted out. No exceptions.

    Second the government also gives wide berth Amish could under legal precedent not provide more than an 8th grade education, many schools opt out of State licensing and can have teachers without any credentials if they opt to do so (a friend of the family teaches in a 1 through 12th grade school with a two year college degree science) and her husband teaches with only a High School Diploma) and its legal. So Mrs. Pence's school by comparison is very far superior to that Fundamentalist School and people complain my guess the students there get a good education.

    The problem as I see it say you want to enforce civil laws top to bottom how do you get passed the Constitutional Protection they have and this across many denominations and groups nationally and they might not like each other but they will come together if the government starts interfering with religious institutions like that and its a serious group with deep pockets for lawyers and can fight also in Congress with lobbyists of their own.
     
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    correct. If there were only religious schools in our country. LGBT folks could not get an education. Because of the religious bigotry and discrimination.
    Now you're getting it.

    Now, over the last 20 or so yrs, that has and is changing. More religious schools and churches are becoming more like Jesus and accepting of all sinners.
    As you should be aware, everyone sins, everyday.
    Especially if one uses thoughts, words, and deeds as sin. As do most protestants, I believe. Not sure about RC.
     
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    What mistake? You seem to be getting angry about this school's policies.
    He had to keep it a secret. He thought about suicide, due to school's policies. He felt like an outcast due to school's policies.

    Has any student ever admitted to being LGBT? If not, they likely they wouldn't know to be able to kick them out.
    But making such students feel so bad they contemplate suicide due to the policies is a horrible thing for any school to do. Would you not agree?
     
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    I said they have a legal right to discriminate. If they are taking NO public monies. Not true if they do. I don't know if they do or don't.

    The big complain by most in all this, is our 2nd in command, endorses the policy of this school. Also fine, but when he benefits personally as 2nd in command, then it becomes an issue.
    Not illegal, just bigoted.
     
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    They don't seem real consistent on their "but it's a private company, they can ban who they want", do they?
     
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    The graphic is wrong. To make things equal the guy on the left gets chopped off at the waste and the fence gets torn down. :)
     
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    Your mistake that the former student said that they kick out gay students.
     
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    "Correct" as in they refuse to admit gay students? You have no evidence of this!

    You have also failed to provide evidence that the school "torment" gay students "mentally" and "tell them how evil and sinful they are." You conveniently left out a response to this part of my last reply to you! Do you want to try again? By the way, one former gay student is NOT credible evidence! They probably consider being told that God doesn't want them to engage in homosexual activity as mental torment! I guarantee you that not one single teacher said that homosexuals are "evil" and "sinful" for just having the sexual orientation of homosexuality!

    You have also failed to provide evidence for a link between Christian school education and gay people committing suicide. Did you forget or do you just not have any? You ALSO conveniently left out a response to this part of my last reply to you! Do you want to try again?

    Not one single Christian entity in the world believes that homosexual sex isn't a sin! And virtually NONE would not be accepting of someone based purely on their homosexuality!
     
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    Well you're right about one thing. I'm not a 'liberal'. I'm actually liberal, you see. Quite a different thing. And FTR, I'm definitely female, a progressive socialist, and hardcore Lefty.

    And the relative anonymity is essential for professional reasons.
     
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    Hardcore lefties don't talk negatively about Islam and they don't say that the West shouldn't take in refugees!

    Because you are the only progressive socialist female in your location?
     
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    OMG "Leftists don't talk negatively about Islam". Wow, you think you've seen the peak of hubris and naivety, then you read
    something like that :D

    But you're right, of course. Cafe Leftists like to demonise white men who barbecue (see Gillette), and let those who honour kill their daughters, throw gays off buildings, and practice FGM, off the hook. All in keeping with their wafer thin veneer of social concern and compassion. The reason you don't recognise my Leftism, is because the varietal you know is merely a mask. A mask hiding (not very well): racism, sexism, ideological intolerance, and rampaging elitism. Kings and nobles, playing at democracy before returning to gilded chambers.

    If you're interested in why a hardcore pragmatist lefty socialist might not want to 'take in refugees' etc, just ask. There are sound reasons for it. And I'll wager they're more 'compassionate' than most.

    Still laffing out loud here at the thing about 'hardcore lefties' leaving Islam in peace. Though not sure I shouldn't be crying at what has happened to the Left.
     
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