The Historic Results of President Donald J. Trump’s First Two Years in Office

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  1. Libby

    Libby Well-Known Member

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    Everyone should put aside their personal opinions about Trump, and read the list of accomplishments from Trump's first two years in office. You don't have to like Trump to appreciate a booming economy, consumer confidence at its highest in 18 years, reduced unemployment (in some cases record lows), 4.6 million people off food stamps, reduction in violent crime, $33 billion in regulatory savings, or seeing our military replenished.

    There is really too much to narrow it down to portions to quote, but you can read the whole list here
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...nt-donald-j-trumps-first-two-years-in-office/

    -GDP is up
    -job creation is up
    -economy is booming
    -unemployment is down
    -record low unemployment for blacks, Asians, and Hispanic Americans
    -4.6 million off food stamps
    -consumer confidence at an 18 year record high
    -reduced regulations (and $33 billion in regulatory savings)
    -renegotiating or withdrawing from trade deals
    -record high crude oil production
    -Keystone XL pipeline
    -record number of generic drugs approved by the FDA (which saves people money)
    -grants and initiatives to battle opioid crisis
    -violent crime down, per FBI
    -$$$$$'s in grants to hire more law enforcement officers
    -rebuilding military
    -record funding for the VA
    -5 year ban on lobbying for White House employees
    -2 Supreme Court judges


    Which bit of progress do you think is the most important?

    The economy has always been a primary issue for me. (So obviously I am pleased with Trump's accomplishments in that area.) Consumer confidence keeps my business succeeding.

    I'm also happy with Trump's Supreme Court picks (and I'm even happier those two spots weren't filled with "legislate from the bench" leftist extremists.)

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...nt-donald-j-trumps-first-two-years-in-office/
     
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    Wow. Things are going so well, it is almost as if there is no crisis on the border. Maybe there isn't. Maybe Trump should get the government open again.

    Or is stopping the pay checks of 800,000 people also one of the things you want to celebrate?
     
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    *According To Trump.
     
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  4. Libby

    Libby Well-Known Member

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    Can you point to one thing I listed, even one, which you can prove is factually inaccurate with a reputable source to back you up?
     
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    The hatred continues. Anyone who does not recognize these as actual accomplishments for Trump and for the country is nothing more than a hater! Simple fact: I did not like the last President, but I didn't hate him. The negativity that this country represents daily comes from the liberals! If they would stop hating, Trump wouldn't even have anything to tweet!
     
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    Aside from the elimination of regulations, the orange dimwit inherited a great economy. Presidents don't have much impact on the economy unless they figure out way to tank it (trade wars, etc.).

    So, no--Bonespurs didn't "fix" anything in the economy, but is figuring out ways to screw it up.
     
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    Sure.

    The "five year ban on lobbying" is almost exclusively a farce when you factor in the waivers given to white house employees. Those waivers were being kept secret by the White House until Mid-2017 when they backed down. And then you can factor the fact that Trump has hired 187 lobbyists to his administration, including appointees like a coal lobbyist to lead the EPA.

    The Keystone XL Pipeline has not progressed anywhere. Construction was blocked in Early November after a judge ruled that the a U.S. State Department environmental analysis of Keystone XL "fell short of a 'hard look"' at the cumulative effects of greenhouse gas emissions and the impact on Native American land resources. The U.S. State Department has agreed to conduct that analysis in late November which is expected to add additional delays. The company said that it has not made a final decision on the investment.

    The rest of your list are accomplishments (according to Trump), but one could take issue with whether the Trump administration deserves most of the credit for the accomplishment. For example, the two Supreme Court selections were put in place because Senate GOP refused to conduct a hearing on Obama's selection for a full year and then forced through both of Trump's nominees by invoking the Nuclear Option for the first time in US history.

    And then there is a point of contention when it comes to whether "renegotiating or withdrawing from trade deals" qualifies as an accomplishment. The new NAFTA has not even been ratified by Congress and thus the old NAFTA is still in effect. And then, you can add on the harm created by withdrawing from TPP and the Paris Accord.

    And finally we come to the fact that Trump's list of accomplishments does not include some of the more dubious accomplishments, like being the President with the lowest approval rating during his first two years since WWII, like being the President during the longest government shutdown in US history, like being President when the DOW had its worst December performance since the Great Depression, and like being the President who enacted a policy of automatically separating children from their parents that was even more cruel and inept that we already knew.
     
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    You mean there still is as Obama claimed numerous times but didn't do anything about. The dems, who refuse to do their jobs, could open the government tomorrow.
     
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    Hasn't the economy been set up by President Obama and is certain to retreat because of Trump's policies?
     
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    Great post.

    Trump's Presidency has been "historic" (but only in the same way that the Titanic was historic).
     
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    22 million people are illegally here. None of them have been vetted.

    No big deal.
     
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    Does this post make any sense to you after further consideration?
     
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    These are 2016 numbers, but the trends don't back up your number, and the fact that many of them have simply overstayed their visas suggests that most of them have been vetted.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/28/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

    This, however, states that the US does a very thorough job of vetting those who obtained visas to begin with, so your claim that there are 22 million unvetted illegals is simply fabricated:

    https://www.brennancenter.org/press-release/facts-america’s-immigrant-and-visitor-vetting-system
     
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    He also would like to reduce the size of our bloated government.
    I might suggest he hold a job fair for out of work government employees though I doubt many would attend.
    Most seem to understand it is temporary and for good cause.
     
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    Most? What makes you believe that you know the opinions for most of those personally affected by Trump's shutdown?

    Also, I would like to note that the notion of reducing the size of our bloated government while simultaneously asking for and massively expanding a government agency which is larger than the size of that same government agency for the next seven countries combined does not make a great deal of logical sense.
     
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    Almost makes Obama seem like he was asleep at the wheel.

    These achievements after only 2 years, and with the full force of the leftist MSM against Trump.

    I entered the workforce in 1997, and have never seen the economy this strong.

    And it even benefits those who despise what Trump is doing.
     
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    Job creation has actually slowed down compared to previous years, whatchu smoking? And violent crime has been going down for decades. But you bring up a good point: Trump takes credit for trends that have been happening for decades. Discuss.
     
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    The economy was stronger under Bush, so either you've been working in a basement for 22 years or you're being deliberately delusional.
     
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    Stronger under Bush by what metrics? I remember the tech bubble at the end of Clinton's term.

    I just did the rough math in my head, today Im making 1000% what I was making in 2000.
     
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    Open borders is clearly the way to go, because if you can’t stop all of them, it’s unfair to stop just a few.
     
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    They are a drain on the economy, education, healthcare, the criminal system, and welfare, etc.

    Adios muchachos.
     
  23. Libby

    Libby Well-Known Member

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    It's kind of funny that nobody can discredit Trump's accomplishments, so they try to shift the credit to Obama instead. Partisan brainwashing at it's best :rolleyes:
     
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    I’ve seen estimates of 12 to 22 million illegals in the U.S.

    No one knows who is here, which is inexcusable. But I don’t expect government to be competent, so it’s not so shocking.
     
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    Parasites.
     
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