Trump’s Best Shutdown Move Is to Fold Now

Cohen: "Trump told me to lie to congress and Mueller has the proof!"""

Lindsey Graham to Willima Barr "If someone tells some one to lie to congress.. is that a crime??"

Barr: "Yes"

In chronological reverse order by less than 24 hrs

I use the quotes loosely

 

Your condescending elitist attitude would not impress anyone.

 

Does this person, of self proclaimed,superior personal intellect, make sense to anyone? Moderators?

 

Nice evasion of the question asked.

 

Sure! Are you offering?

Tongue in cheek aside, could you please answer the question I posed?

 

tou asked a quetion?

The metric I would use is the mere fact everyone wants to come here. To me that overrides your "Cato Institute".. or your intelligence unit. Just remember, figures don't lie but liars figure. We are a Republic. Our founders were geniuses. The precepts they set forth are unparalleled anywhere in the world.

 

Or they could just fine employers who HIRE illegals.

 

Jump on the businesses and managers and owners and dividends that come from operations that hire illegals.

 

Fines aren't enough. It's only a portion of their profits. They need to do serious jail time!

 

To solve the problem of illegal immigration, we need to burn the candle at both ends. Imprison employers and build the wall!

 

Hmmm... maybe Republicans could pass a bill to pay these Federal workers and more than 6 Democrats could vote in favor.

 

Trump needs to use emergency funding and end this. Pelosi is a jerk.

 

Imprisonment for managers managing illegal and more funds for border security.

 

Pelosi owns Trump.

 

1. See forum post #692 above by The-Architect, last sentence.
2. True. . .and liberals are the ones who want all Americans--including Blacks, Women, Gays, transgenders, Asians, Latinos, and EVERYONE else to enjoy the benefits of those hallowed precepts.

 

All the snowflakes are finally seeing that Trump has literally one negotiating tactic that he picked up for one of those “How Real Men Negotiate” self-help books from the 80s and 90s, and after that he kind of just sits around, farts, and tweets.

 

Your anecdote overrides measured and analyzed data, even from right-wing sources?

Anyway, in regard to net migration per capita, the U.S. isn't at the top either. The CIA World Factbook lists us at #29 behind the European nations of Luxembourg, Spain, Norway, Belgium, Sweden, Liechtenstein, Austria, Switzerland, Ireland, and Iceland.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2112rank.html

I ask again, by what metric do you base your assertion that the U.S. is an example of freedom compared to European countries?

 

These guys stole your jobs:


And they still are. Maybe you haven't noticed?
I know it's hard to blame a machine, but...….

 

We are not going back to the coal mines.

 

Shutdown Drags President Trump's Approval Rating Down to 34%: Poll

(WASHINGTON) — A strong majority of Americans blame President Donald Trump for the record-long government shutdown and reject his primary rationale for a border wall, according to a new poll that shows the turmoil in Washington is dragging his approval rating to its lowest level in more than a year.

Overall, 34 percent of Americans approve of Trump’s job performance in a survey conducted by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. That’s down from 42 percent a month earlier and nears the lowest mark of his two-year presidency. The president’s approval among Republicans remains close to 80 percent, but his standing with independents is among its lowest points of his time in office.

“Trump is responsible for this,” said poll respondent Lloyd Rabalais, a federal contractor from Slidell, Louisiana, who’s not affiliated with either political party.

... http://time.com/5511358/trump-approval-rating-falls/​

34-65. That has to be a record. Now he has that to boast along with having the longest government shutdown in history credited to him.

The story also says that nearly 8 in 10 Republicans support MAGA's wall. Isn't it a crying shame what biased conservative media have done to the nation? They're lost down a rabbit hole of alternative facts and ideology.

 

He should have folded the second that the new Congress was sworn in.

 

Not until he gets funding for his Wall.

HANG TIGHT, TRUMP!

 

He folded on December 11th. Then he went back on it, and left McConnell holding the bag.

McConnell, Pelosi and Schumer are going to wind up making the deal and Trump will sign whatever they slide under his nose. Then he'll stage a series of rallies and declare victory.

 

Trump is going to win this battle.

 

But they all need a leg up because they are painted as victims. That is why they clamor for Socialism. I've known successful people in everyone of those classes you describe. I think we need to see people as individuals but I know your ideology loves identity politics.