Pelosi: No State of the Union in the House until shutdown ends

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I’ll try to remember this prediction of yours to discuss it with you after the SOTU address.
     
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    A government event doesn't necessarily mean it is an *open* government event(this is shaping up to be very similar to the Acosta saga.). For example, the President could give his address in the Rose Garden. Think there'll be invitations? Of course not. The Public is not obligated to attend a speech that I don't think they even attend in the first place.
     
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    This is really, really, REALLY BAD. Not even during the very worst part of the Vietnam War did anything like THIS ever happen. We have entered completely uncharted waters, and there are monsters lurking beneath the waves. Monsters! And I would not be surprised at anything (ANYTHING) that happens now....

    They must be rejoicing at their good fortune in both Russia and China right now. We are pulling each others guts out now, but our opponents haven't had to expend any energy or effort at all....

    [​IMG]. "Give those dumb bastards another six months and they'll be shooting each other in the streets!"
     
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  4. MrTLegal

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    And that is also true, but that is a limitation of the venue. The rose garden, because it is on white house grounds, is subject to a whole host of additional security restrictions that does not apply at, say, a concert hall.

    There is a delicate balancing act which must occur here. But my point is that delivering the speech at one of his usual campaign rallies isn't going to work.
     
  5. struth

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    Not surprised by this, Nancy is in full panic mode. She can not let trump have a voice. No worries, the president will deliver te SOTU. He follows the Constitution...Nancy clearly wants to undo it
     
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    More like constipated Americans.
     
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    Looks like he is going to postpone it until Gov't opens again.
    Sorry Alabama.
     
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    that is a pretty low Barr. Roseanne can even manage that one ( pun intended)
     
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    It's time for Democrats to stop turning the other cheek and to swing back at right wing treason.
     
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    She is providing America something it has craved for two years. Namely the example of someone with the capacity and balls to teach this spoiled boy a lesson . her favorability numbers in this shutdown exceed your President's by over 10 points according to this poll. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pelosi-has-edge-over-trump-on-budget-negotiations-says-cbs-news-poll/. Now if the President is less popular secondary to this shutdown, and his tactics are less popular, and his opponent is more popular, then guess which side is likely to have less cracks in unity as this goes forward. Voters admire those that stand up to bullies, more than they admire bullies.
     
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    Aren't you glad to see that he has agreed with Nancy to wait?
     
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    Well darned. Doesn't look like he will be giving that speech in a big venue after all.
     
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    Kudos to trump for growing up.
     
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    Aren't you happy that trump has agreed with Pelosi and decided to wait?
     
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    It's not her job to 'stand up to a bully'. It's her job to negotiate a bill that could pass her caucus that the President can sign. That's her job. That's her ONLY obligation, and she's not doing a very good job of it.

    That other people approve of her failure, doesn't mean I'll clap along.
     
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    [​IMG]
    Now maybe we can get down to business.
    But why don't I trust him now either?
     
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    She has already done that job ( not that it accurately describes said job) - four times. Now go talk to McConnell about his job.
     
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    No...but I understand wanting to continue to show he's willing to work with Nancy...another Olive Branch...unfortuately given Nancy's past behavior I believe it will mean nothing.
     
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    That is NOT the job description of either Pelosi or McConnell, when it comes to spending bills at least. Their jobs are to negotiate and approve the best bills for America and present them to the President. If he vetoes bills, they vote to override the veto.

    That's it... The Presidents viewpoints or statements on bills before they get to his desk should have ZERO impact.

    Nancy understands that... McConnell doesn't....
     
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    He's going to get beat up by conservative media over this. Instead of growing a backbone and telling Coulter / Rush to shut their traps he Will get madder and angrier at how this is playing out publicly. Hopefully the government is reopened before that.
     
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    Lara Trump: Shutdown 'a bit of pain' for federal workers

    President Trump's daughter-in-law Lara Trump says federal employees currently furloughed or working without pay due to the partial government shutdown are experiencing a "little bit of pain" for the "future of our country."​

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics...px.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/

    Leave it to a member of MAGA's family to outdo MAGA in the cluelessness & wealthy callousness department. She and MAGA both think and behave like terrorists, who also believe that their cause is greater than the human suffering they create and who obviously ignore and minimize that suffering.
     
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    "Right wing Treason"? Although Trump obviously never went to "charm school", or picked up a copy of "Diplomacy For Dummies", and even though "the Wall" as originally called for in his Executive Order made no sense, he's now calling for 'barriers' in SPECIFIC areas only, along with greatly enhanced border security.

    And you on the Left call that "TREASON"?! How can any rational person even try to reason with someone who says such things which are absolutely batshit-crazy on their face?!

    Treason?! Really?! The scene below from five years ago when "Messiah" Obama left the borders practically undefended was treason!

    upload_2019-1-24_7-46-20.jpeg One of many such scenes from 2014. WHO was president then? Was THAT 'treason'...?!
     
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    He is so close to really showing that he is willing to work.

    Sign the legislation to open the government.
     

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