The REAL Reason the Hard Left Supports Gun Control

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Ethereal, Jan 26, 2019.

  1. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

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    Oh Lord...

    That’s what your going with?
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    The reason that passionate gun fanciers are so enamored of permissive gun laws in the US is not because young white males are given easy access to firearms and some continually shoot innocent Americans to death in massacre after massacre.
    Yes, one can cite the tragic toll inflicted by armed young white men in America, but isolating and hyping any demographic in such criminal acts is an irrational appeal to prejudice, intended to demonize a single targeted profile.
     
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  3. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Shall we cite the pistol permit debacle in the state of New York, and the uncovered widespread corruption that has infested the entire system? Shall we go over the number of individuals who have been issued permits for firearms who never should have been in the first place?
     
  4. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

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    The reason I’m pro gun is summed up perfectly by the 2nd A.

    No other explanation needed for me. The hunting, target shooting and home protection aspect is all secondary too me.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    We can attempt whatever diversions serve agendas, of course.
     
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    Just destroying America one day at a time with my liberal politics! Lol
     
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    Okay. So get the conversation started...
    1. What qualifies as 'common sense' from an objective and realistic position?
    2. What has a chance of passing a vote and becoming law?
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So random massacres are the new norm? Likely to keep on increasing as they have been over the past decades?
     
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    chingler Banned at Members Request

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    fortunately we own several. my husband and i are always armed. he is an expert marksman and i am not far behind. we will not be victims. our guns will never be used in the commission of a crime. we are exactly the kind of people you want carrying guns. and let me correct you on something: we are not allowed to own guns: it is our natural right. it is the state who is not allowed to violate our natural rights... yours included.

    that said, i should remind you that the ad hominem is a piss poor substitute for an actual argument. you’ll do better next time i’m sure.

    now tell me, why don’t you want women to be able to defend themselves from rapists?
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm more worried about people having to defend themselves from you.
     
  11. Xenamnes

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    Correct, so long as the media is happy to obsessively report on such, and glorify the perpetrator with a level of infamy and recognition they could not have achieved otherwise.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    The only individuals that would actually HAVE to defend themselves from the member above, would be those who are engaged in criminal acts against them, and threatening their own well being. To make the statement that has been made on the part of yourself, is to express concern for violent, criminally-minded individuals who see nothing wrong with harming others for their own benefit.
     
  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So we should stop reporting massacres, just ignore the problem and it will go away?

    "Uh...Ms Colbert, what happened to Tommy and Robert and Peggy and Lorraine, Billy, John , Clark and Tommy? They've all been sick a long time now"

    "Dead bodies all over the Mall this evening. Wonder if the news has anything other than the Gun Show"
     
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  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I don't want rapists to have guns. I'm not against women having them as long as they can adequately demonstrate they will not use them in a criminal or insane manner. In these matters, I trust women far more than men.
     
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    I'm not exactly certain of the PF rules but something tells me one is not supposed to label an idiotic and totally insane post as idiotic and totally insane. So I won't. But are you for real, or is this maybe just your attempt at humor?
     
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    Yes, as long as we continue to focus on guns and not the causes of the human behavior the killings will continue to get worse.
     
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    Even gun shows are no longer allowed in Orange county and probably will be banned across the state soon.
     
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    How sad for Orange County and California. In my town the VFW puts on an annual gun show in the high school gym. The last murder we had in town was over 10 years a go; a guy stabbed his wife to death.
     
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    Yeah unfortunately. I know that's not an answer that anybody likes to hear but it's basically true. We have more guns than citizens in the US and they aren't going anywhere...

    There are like 260 million vehicles in the US and over 3,000 Americans die per day in vehicle related accidents. It's a part of life that we accept in a society with 260+ million vehicles driving around.

    Having nearly 400 million firearms in the US is going to result in a fairly large number of Americans getting shot on a daily basis. It's just something that society is going to have to learn to accept because there honestly isn't really anything you can do about it. Even if you completely disregard the US Constitution and instill some sort of Australian style gun laws here you still have to deal with the fact that there are still 400 million guns here already...It's not like you can just magically make them disappear.
     
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    The state cannot have a monopoly on force, so long as the people remain armed.
     
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    Straw-man purchases are federal felonies.
    Why do you people refuse to understand the "gun show loophole" nonsense is a lie?
     
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    Common sense:
    - Has an actual effect on preventing criminals from getting guns
    - Does not limit the rights of the law abiding.
     
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    He should not have a gun because he wants to have the means to protect himself from the people like you want to let out of prison and the illegal aliens you welcome with open arms?
    How does that make sense?
     
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    By "people" you can only mean "criminals".
     
  25. carlosofcali

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    Good for you. States like California/ Connecticut/ Colorado/ Maryland/ Massachusetts/ New Jersey/ New York/ DC aggressively supervise/ limit civilian gun access and oppose the NRA. That "Russian" connection with the NRA is also receiving scrutiny.
     

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