Theresa May poised for SHOWDOWN as she reveals Plan B to save Brexit.

No, I don't agree. Some random bloke parroting statements that you, and other Leave enthusiasts, happen to agree with doesn't necessarily make the video informative.

There are people down the pub who say the most outrageous things all the time because they have no knowledge about what they're talking about and rely instead on the tabloid press and other blokes down the pub for their knowledge.

No I don't. The nature of my work (an awful lot of time spent in teleconferences with employees, clients and prospective clients) means that whilst it's relatively easy for me to access text-based sources, watching videos is restricted to evenings and weekends.

Conspiracy theorists are funny.....I assure you, if anything, there is less to me than meets the eye.

 

...okay...apply the same amount of energy to a positive spin....so how do you think a no-deal brexit could work...we've all heard what could happen, we all know what the dystopian scenarios are;they're all out in the open and they cannot all happen! Part of actually being productive is to accept the situation as it actually is and work to make it work; you say you run your own business do you think it would have been successful if you were always trying to make matters worse for yourself?
If the vested interests that are spending gobs of money on advertising and actively advocating failure where to, for example, use that money and their political and business connections to their European partners for the benefit of the UK; i.e. to accept the democratic will of the British people and lobby for an acceptable solution to the situation, then maybe the narrative could be that the British people can actually make a good fist of the situation, they can take the necessary steps towards what the people were asked by their politicians. Don't loose sight of the fact that this was a political scenario.... that people were asked by politicians to vote on this question!
So back to your business, when faced with an adverse scenario do you seek solutions, do you work through it or do you sit there and fling you hands in the air and cry about it? Personally having been presented with and having worked through a difficult situation either working on my own or with a team there is a sense of satisfaction at having been able to get through it.

 

I'll tell you what, put your money where your mouth is - listen to what he says then tell me where you think he's got it wrong?

Yes, and there are people on discussions forums who have their agendas??

It would take the same time for you to watch that vid as it would to compose two posts.

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I can compose posts while still keeping half an ear on the ongoing teleconference - I cannot do the same with a video

 

I didn't suggest you should watch it as well as composing them, I suggested you watch it instead of??

 

Number one rule is to try not to do something stupid. Asking me to plan a way out of a no-deal Brexit is like asking me how I plan to recover the company finances after betting all of the company's money on Lucky Boy in the 3:15 at Haydock Park - just don't do it. I don't think a no-deal Brexit can work - or at least not as well as a Brexit where there is a deal or indeed not leaving the EU at all. All we can do is to attempt to mitigate the worst of the ill effects.

For example we will not ever be able to top the trade agreement we currently have with our number one trading partner - the EU. All we can do is to attempt to mitigate the worst of the bad effects. The difficulty is that we will be under a lot or pressure from other countries to strike deals with them, one of the side effects of which will be to make it more difficult to get a deal with the EU.

What I expect is that, over the next decade or so, we will end up with trade deals with a range of countries and trading blocs which are on significantly better terms for the other party than the current EU deals. Our trading partners will be happy because the barriers to entry to the UK market will be lower and we will sell those deals hard domestically because by then a bad deal will be better than no deal.

"Competitiveness" will be a word we will hear a lot and it will be used to remove environmental and workers' protections, lower wages, and reduce corporation taxes in order to compensate for the fact that our exports will be subject to higher tariffs than they were when we were an EU member. Instead of competing with the first world on innovation and expertise, increasingly we will be competing with the developing world on price - not least because our services industry (80% of GDP, huge trade surplus, engine of growth for the economy) will have lost its access to the EU on favourable terms.

 

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And if you think that I'll believe you can absorb a teleconferencing whilst simultaneously writing 2 posts, you must think I was born yesterday.

 

Reading comprehension not a strong point I see. I cannot watch videos at the same time I'm on a teleconference. I can compose posts and access text-based sources at the same time I'm on a teleconference. This is why I do the latter and not the former.

 

Of course I can - like I say, it's easy to keep half an ear out.

Multitasking - you should try it sometime.

 

I DO NOT believe that - it would be taking multitasking to a whole new level. If you can write posts whilst watching a telecasting and absorbing what's said therein, then you can write them watching a video - it's precisely the same thing.

 

You're outted, and I claim my £5. Only women can multi-task so you must be one, or I'm a Dutchman.

 

That's politicians for you....so?

....yes we know the dystopian view....you're parroting the mantra...however, my point was the opposite. To stop parroting the mantra and work for the benefit of the UK accepting what is...IS.
I assume therefore that your business does not involve any overseas component and has run smoothly without any hiccups - thus you've not been a position to work through any problems, lucky you!!

 

OK, if the politicians really do end up with a no-deal then we should do whatever it takes to get whatever kind of deal the EU and a handful of key trading partners are prepared to offer before the UK economy slips into recession.

My business is close to 100% reliant on business with the EU. It's incredibly easy to do business in the EU. Usually our contracts are renewed in October/November for the following year. This year, all our contracts expire on 29 March and none of our clients are prepared to even enter into discussions until they know one way or another whether we continue to do business as now or whether, as a third country, we have to go through the expensive hoops of demonstrating that no-one in the EU can perform the role and that we adhere to all the rules on things like data protection, employee rights and so on.

In the past we have tried to expand into the US (an expensive learning process), the Indian subcontinent (if we were five times the size, maybe that could have worked) we've also worked in South Africa, Australia and New Zealand but to be honest, for a small business, that degree of geographical separation is tough.

 

Well spend your time thinking of ways to diversify instead of wasting it on here all day every effing day!!??

 

What do you imagine that the teleconferences are about ?

The difficulty is that it's very difficult to do business right now outside the UK because no-one knows what the post-Brexit situation is going to be, especially for services.

There's also a reticence in the UK to commit to spending after 29 March for obvious reasons.

 

How would I know; but if they're business teleconferences I'd imagine they'd be of some importance otherwise why have them?

That's right, so why keep spreading nightmare scenarios when they might not happen? Indeed the reverse could be the case, and after a short period of adjustment everything will settle back down - even with unexpected benefits? - to the status quo ante. The 27 don't want to lose their export market to us any more than you want to lose yours to them. Whether or not they need us more than they need us is debatable, but it's still the case that they need us, and I believe you're worrying needlessly.

The elitists, political and establishment plus business leaders, are wealthy enough to hire all kinds of consultancies which specialise in PR and negative spin - that's why they're indulging in this constant tsunami of bad news, and their bluff needs to be called by less biased and wiser heads.

 

Then stop insinuating that I'm doing nothing to save by business, and the livelihood of my employees.

Worrying needlessly ?

I've been running this business for more than 15 years. Never, ever, ever have I been in the position that our order book is so empty exactly 2 months from now. The "short period of adjustment" you rather optimistically refer to is irrelevant when there is no money coming in, but the business outlays are exactly the same.

By the way, there is no debate that (Ireland aside), we need the EU more than they need us. We are more dependent on the EU for both imports and exports than they are. If the EU cannot get UK lamb or beef, that's a single digit percentage of their needs. On the other hand, at this time of year more than 50% of our salad vegetables comes from the EU. If German companies cannot export to the UK, that's 7% of their market gone, if the UK cannot export to the EU, that's nearly 50%.

Well that's the Leave view - ignore all experts and go along with people who just agree with you.

 

So you expect us to surrender our sovereignty and allow incompetent un-elected foreigners to make our laws and run our judiciary just so we can keep your business solvent do you? Get a grip ffs! Either diversify or go under, the choice is yours not ours.

 

No, but then again pretty much everything in the above sentence is untrue:

• Sovereignty was and is not surrendered
• We make our laws
• The EU representatives are elected

That implies that failure to diversify in a difficult business environment is a choice - which shows your complete lack of knowledge about business.

 

If that's true then why all the discussions in all circles about regaining it?

We don't, our parliament simply rubber-stamps what we're given, and we get fined if we transgress any of them. Who the **** do these little jumped-up wanna-be dictators they are!

Nice try - the MEPs are elected by their country's constituents but the commissioners aren't, they appoint each other, and their friends and family members who are queuing up in the wings for a piece of the parasitic action.

The world doesn't owe you a living whatever it is your make, so you might as well get used to it. And I'm still convinced you're an apparatchik for either the EU or the UK government, especially from what you've written above which is a load of crap, and you know it. But I'm not so easily fooled.

 

...and if Corbyn successfully reinflates Lenin...

...and if Mars crashes into earth...

 

The incredibly smart, articulate man has just nailed the "WTO apocalypse" lie (Article 24 GATT, FWIW):




(Pedofile characteristics notwithstanding.)

Don't tell you new friend The Don, that renowned mafia kingpin is way too busy running his spectacularly successful business to be spending all day commenting on post after post after post after post after post after post after post after post after post on an obscure internet forum, which he seems to manage to do nonetheless.

 

I've just called him out?? Now let's wait and see if his daily deluge of posts suddenly come to an abrupt end??

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-is-voted-down.549231/page-29#post-1070168261

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Asked and answered.

 

If only it was spectacularly successful. For sure it's provided me and my employees a decent living these last 15 years but right now looking at the forecast and pipeline, it's likely we'll either be making most of them redundant or worst case winding up the business altogether.