I'm an Objectivist. Debate me.

exactly my point. truth is not dependent upon how you see it. truth is truth, regardless of what you believe.

Again, your statement is in direct violation of your beloved philosophy.

 

it doesn't translate into the real world. That's why it's fiction.

 

Ok well that's your loss if you can't see it

 

there's nothing to see. It's a mediocre fiction novel.

 

which tells me that you didn't really grasp Rand's ideas

 

of course I did. It's why I can appreciate the good, and point out the bad.

 

you just said there's nothing to see

 

As in there is no comparison to reality in there. Her underlying philosophy has some good aspects. But it's hopelessly flawed. The fictional novel is not comparable to reality.

 

Let the human being decide, Prometheus, Calibus, The Average Joe, or best of all, Howard Roark.

Prometheus: The bringer of light.


Calibus: Defiler of the Sacred


Average Joe: The statistical average


And to those who criticize, (rahl); Howard Roark: But I don't think of you.


Well, not any longer, anyway.

 

Is it reality?

Ayn Rand: "My philosophy, in essence, is the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute."

Or is it just make-believe? Let each decide for themselves. I have.

 

What if I claimed that waveform energy arises from the conversion of "solid particle/matter?"

No, it doesn't. You could leave the same experiment observed or unobserved by conscious awareness and the same results would come to pass.

And plenty, unfortunately, have misunderstood or misinterpreted it.

It by definition MUST announce it's existence, it IS existence. Beside the point. Nothing you've said here has any scientific merit, until you said what I'm quoting here.

 

Why can't I interpret it to explain what's happening anywhere at anytime in history?

 

Can Rand's philosophy work in the real world. Do any philosophers admire her?

You be the judge:

 

Cuz you’re not smart enough? It’s pretty obvious.

 

Boy did you miss the point. My point is that concepts and ideas from the book aren't especially applicable to "America right now" as compared to just about any another point in history.

In other words, I AM smart enough to interpret it as applying to anywhere at anytime. That's the problem with your statement.

 

Is the purpose of art to show what is, the statistical average, your neighbor; or is it something more--life as it should and ought to be.

Let each decide for themselves as to the merit of Ayn Rand's view:

 

I don't care

 

Clearly.

Like most utopians, Rand's belief system portrays mankind as doomed on it's current course. Like most utopians, Rand's belief system would portray mankind as doomed on it's course in nearly every place and time in history. Her viewpoint, in particular, ascribes too much weight to intellectual history. Peikoff took this flaw and doubled down.

 

Mankind is doomed on its current course lol

 

Objectivism in the everyday life of an ordinary man.

I drive rideshare in Chicago. It has been challenging with the recent snow and cold. And this morning was brutal. Cold snow had fallen over night. A white frost filled the air. My bed, warm and comforting. But I got up. Why?

To be better than my sleeping-in next door neighbor? Nope. To serve society by giving people their needed rides? Nope. Because that’s what humans do? Get up and go to work? Nope. To prove that I’m a good Objectivist by being productive and responsible? Nope. None of these. Nor any other silly nonsense.

I go to work because I love living in a heated home, with HD TV...with desktop computer...with access to the internet...and with a cozy bed and a loving mate.

I go to work because I love cruising; because I love going to the movies with the grandchildren; because I love taking a beautiful woman to dinner.

I go to work because I want to cruise the South Pacific and see Tahiti; because I want to by a new guitar; because if possible, I’d like to buy a ticket to fly in Virgin Galactic’s SpaceShip II and ride a rocket to the heavens.I want this because I love life, especially mine.

No. I’ll never be a Howard Roark, or a John Galt, or an Ayn Rand. But I will be me. And that is Objectivism in a nutshell: to be the best you are to reach the dreams you dream so that you may have a life on earth in heaven... within reason.

And for this vision of life, magnified to the brilliance of a super nova in her works of art, Ayn Rand is smeared, ridiculed, and hated.

Go...frigging...figure.

 

Mankind will never be doomed, as long as there are souls who love life, as it should and ought to be.

 

I consider myself a philosopher and I take Ayn Rand and Objectivism seriously. It's not flawless, but it's very very good, much better than any of the "I wish the world was like this" philosophies out there.

 

I have mixed feelings on this. Some days I agree with you, the soul of Western man will never be extinguished, not even 1000 years of Dark Ages could do it. Other days, I feel like Western man has lost his will to survive and will soon be plowed under by the forces of darkness once again, a darkness that we may never emerge from. I can envision a day in the not too distant future in which space travel and the moon landing are considered myths and hoaxes, fairy tales from a dead civilization.

 

… and if we're to apply your standards universally, it has always been doomed on it's current course.

Well, if this is the future of millions of years of doom, "doom" doesn't seem like much to fear.

 

Objectivism in the everyday life of an ordinary man.

Now that the spiritual side has been presented, here’s the practical side.

Same day; same reality. Want to do to make this a day that builds towards achieving my dreams. In other words, I have my “is”, what is my “ought”?

It’s cold; dress warm and warm up car. The roads are snowy, icy, and slippery; make sure tires are good. Test brakes. Do they grab or slide? Careful around corners; snowbanks create blind spots. In other words, focus, look, decide, and keep your mind alert and active for changes. Ready. Time to make money and make my dreams, hopes, loves, pleasures, and desires, a reality.

Wait! What about my fellow human beings? What about the poor and unfortunate ? What about the sick and dying? To them I say: Think. And best wishes.

Damn. Can you believe that. That’s the principles of Objectivism—know where you’ve been, know where you’re going, decide how to get there, i.e., reality, reason, integration, decision, action. Everyday life for an everyday soul.

Objectivism doesn’t guarantee you the life of a creative genius; it only states: You want a happy life on earth, think.

That’s life. ”Doncha love it? Doncha love it? Doncha just love it? Reality based achiements; not pie-in-the-sky delusions.

Let’s those who moan Objectivistism has nothing to do with life, reality, hopes, and dreams, try crossing a busy street with their eyes close, their ears plugged, their senses, numb, and their brains empty. And then call the mortuary.