We need to develop a list of Trump's failures and lies.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Kode, Feb 10, 2019.

  1. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't bother, it would take too long.
    It would be easier to compile a list of trump's honest statements.
    You could easily fit that on a postage stamp.
     
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  2. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LMAO...He spends most of his days lying around in bed, watching porn alone and ranting lies on twitter.
    Maybe we should all take up a collection and pay his trophy wife to have sex with him once a week.
     
  3. Hoosier8

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    Sounds like bitter jealousy.
     
  4. Tim15856

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    Oh yeah, I read an article on a site that checks the fact checkers. Included in that figure is such lies as when Trump said something cost him an arm and a leg they declared it false because he had all his arms and legs. And another from memory, when Trump said Hillary acid washed her hard drive, they said it was a lie because she used Bleachbit to erase it.
     
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    Q: Is the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act just a tax cut for the rich?

    A: No, the tax cuts are not just benefiting the wealthy. Average taxpayers in every congressional district get a tax cut, and lower-income communities get the largest percentage decreases in their tax bills.

    Some low-income congressional districts will see their federal income taxes cut by 20 percent or more.

    Even the corporate tax cut is benefiting workers significantly. Because more than 75 percent of business taxes are ultimately passed on to workers in the form of lower wages, workers can expect the biggest economic benefits from business tax reform.

    Wage growth for lower-income workers is already outpacing that of their higher-income counterparts.

    Q: Will the tax cuts really add $2 trillion to the national debt?

    A: No, it’s spending that adds to the debt.

    Tax reform’s promise was simple. American families will send an average of $1,400 less to Washington each year. For that promise to be true, however, Congress must also reduce spending.

    Deficit spending today means tax increases in the future.

    According to the nonpartisan Tax Foundation, the tax cuts will only reduce revenue temporarily. By 2024, the tax cuts actually raise more yearly revenue than before the reform and add $448 billion to the debt in the short run.

    The most conservative estimates from the Congressional Budget Office show that the federal government will collect about $20 billion more this year than last.

    In that sense, the “tax cut” was merely a reduction in the growth rate of federal tax collections.

    In August, revenues were up 1 percent, but spending rose by 7 percent. Congress’ decision to slow the growth rate of tax collections while simultaneously dramatically increasing spending is a recipe for fiscal disaster.

    Spending increased over the rate of inflation is the problem here.

    https://www.heritage.org/taxes/commentary/separating-economic-facts-fiction-the-trump-tax-cuts


     
  6. Doug_yvr

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    My favorite failure, and the one that should concern people the most is his promise to "surround myself only with the best and most serious people" and stating that "we want top-of-the-line professionals."

    Turnover of these "top of the line professionals" is now 65%.

    This is a failure that Trump cannot blame on anyone else. He hired people like Flynn who was already known to be under investigation, he hired (and continues to hire) completely unqualified people like his family and Amarosa Manigault Newman. He hired people who despite the fact they were competent and very successful in previous roles completely failed in his administration. This includes people like Tillerson and John Kelly.

    No President has so completely bombed at managing his own staff.
     
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    LOL, apparently math is hard for some. You pay in fewer taxes, you get back a smaller return.
     
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    Lol...Still polishing turds, eh?
     
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    As long as you keep buying them.
     
  11. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I disagree. It's obvious that trump hates America and he purposely cobbled together the worst people he could find to fill out his staff. That's why it's been labeled a kakistocracy.
     
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    Presidential lies and failures? Is this a new thing?

    We elected each and every one. Can all parties just respect that?

    Most of us will have a President at some point in life that we didn't vote for.
     
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    I disagree. He's not competent enough to **** up this badly on purpose. He'd **** up ****ing up.
     
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    "Eventually Trump's refusal came to rest upon the IRS audit, which he even alluded to later in the Economist interview. The IRS, however, has said nothing precludes a president from releasing tax returns while under audit (Nixon did)."

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...elease-his-tax-returns-after-audit-completed/
     
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    Shall we examine why the debt increased? Do you suppose, perhaps, it had something to do with inheriting two wars, a country nearly in a depression losing 600K jobs a month, a $1.2T budget deficit, and a global recession?
     
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    Did Carter ever receive subsidies from the agriculture dept? And please that is one business in one location. Trump has hundreds of businesses across states and nations. How do you place a business like that the is worth Billions (according to him) in the hands of some trust for four years. Perot was not going to do it either. Kennedy did not either.
     
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    Except true
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Some facts for the hatemongers:

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    Of course, dont expect the truth to play any role in this thread. Its all about feeding TDS.
     
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    And what do you hope to find in them?

    Mueller has them so do you think you will discover something that he and his teams of lawyers have not?

    Or is it just so you have one more thing to whine about in regards to Trump?
     
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    It isn't about whining - it is about holding the man's feet to the fire for something he said he would do. And hasn't. He isn't being asked to cure cancer - he is being asked to do what every other POTUS candidate has done.

    He talked about loopholes - things that he, himself, benefited from - and wanted to close them. I'm not a tax expert, but I don't see many closed. One of the most ridiculous is the fact that he pays less than $1000 in taxes (versus over $80,000) for his golf courses is because he keeps 8 goats on Bedminster and grows hay on another - allowing him to claim 'farmland' status for part of the property.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    We should question politicians who get rich in office instead of rich folks who get elected to office.

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    Oh boy!

    A subjective list from triggered Never Trumper's should be a worthwhile endeavor.

    :banana::banana::banana::banana:
     

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