In "Serious Blow" To US, Britain Concludes Huawei Is "Manageable Risk" To 5G Rollout

This is the second time in recent years that HMS Blighty grew a pair and defied the US. The first was when Obama called on Britain not to join with China as a founding member of their Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank.

This follows on the heels of the EU ignoring the US on these 5g phones and also Germany ignoring threats from Washington and proceeding with Russia on the Nord Stream II gas project.

According to some reports (I'm a technophobe so have no real clue on this) the Huawei 5g phone - unlike American models - doesn't have a government required trapdoor nor possesses breakable encryption. And it is these anti-surveillance attributes that is behind the US drive to see them banished.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...akC_XqWVgF3rTTcbSAS_aK_oS5CmfBjDpguRwKZShEMWQ

 

Cool.

I guess "proceed at your own risk" is the order of the day.

Asymmetrical warfare from powerful nation like China apparently is something the UK and the EU chooses to ignore.

 

Maybe they consider the USA is now a worse proposition? Especially given its decision to walk back the Iran nuke deal and also cancel the INF Treaty that was particularly enacted for European safety from nuclear exchange.

 

Russia's actions made the INF Treaty meaningless. The Iran Nuke deal was a scam and charade.

The reliance on energy from potential enemies causes many agreements to take place. That's called "turning a blind eye"

Short term benefits often erase long term threats.

 

You might argue that but Britain and the EU aren't buying that snake oil argument - which is why they continue to back Iran on the nuke deal and also trade with them - and also are prepared to accept Huawei phones.

 

Well it's choose your poison... brand equals government that spies on you... oh wait the undersea cables are being tapped anyway... so guess it doesn't matter... I think they're just a bunch of perverts

 

We are claiming Chinese phones and %g network equipment have built in spying capabilities similar to what we installed in Boeing aircraft we sold to them a few years ago,which the Chinese found almost upon delivery.

 

And don't forget that Huawei makes a very good Android phone, and a lot of Western European phone buyers want to stay away from Apple.

 

A "claim" is not evidence. Never has been, never will be.

I've seen no evidence that this claim is true and am therefore inclined to accept the counter argument presented that Apple and other phones "acceptable" to the US have in-built backdoors and encryption that is easily read by the NSA.

Clearly the EU and UK don't regard Huawei phones to be the menace the US would have us all believe.

 

It will be a little odd, but entirely understandable given the decisions being made, if someday there are chinese enclaves in GB ruled by china

and british coolies hauling fat chinese around in rickshaws

 

LOL, I am confused I thought the reason people didn't like Huwaii was because they were supposedly sending information back to China. Now the reason is because they are too secure and can't be accessed by the government?

By the way 5G sucks balls.

 

As a Brit I don’t think we give a toss about anything other than the currant disaster of Brexit. Both the main parties are in turmoil and in danger of falling apart while our Prime Minster kicks the can down the road which comes to a dead end in 40 days time.

 

Serious blow? That is humorous.

 

Its not a knockout, but they are making strides that will effect their standing in the communications market in the near future.

They are also making strides on the cellular phone side, and without direct access to the US market.

We are taking them seriously at this point, as we should. We don't want to be second or possibly third in the communications market, its worth a lot of money.

 

I think they do and have highlighted that fact to the various agencies and Government departments involved - conclusions based on GCHQ's security oversight of the Huawei Cyber Security Evaluation Centre (HCSEC) and various management audits carried out by Ernst and Young on Huawei.

I guess the various US agencies involved in cyber security etc. have their own take on life but would be amazed if such insights were not shared on a UK/US inter-agency basis. I agree though that securing 5G, indeed any G, is of paramount national importance so scepticism should never be lost.

I guess the real meaty bits have been retained but here's a link to the 2018 GCHQ report

 

The question is do we want to take part in Trumps trade war with China or not!