Who has more control of our thinking; God or Satan?

Who has more control of our thinking; God or Satan?



I don’t know what God or Satan’s game is, but God giving Satan dominion over our political/physical realm as well as the power to deceive our spiritual/religious realm in us all seems counterintuitive to what a good God would do.

It seems like God is giving Satan the advantage, in terms of our ability to think without deception or Satan’s undo interference.

Rev12;9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent,

called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Why did God curse us with Satan and her minions?

It cannot be to give us free will as none of us have the free will to never sin. If we did have that, we would have some examples of
people who never sinned.

On another tangent, scriptures say that God himself put’s lies/deception into his prophets and that he decides who will have faith or not by his doling out grace only to those he has pre-selected and thus denies other the ability to have faith or belief.

This biblical contradiction, strangely, refutes all that I put above on Satan. Can Christians clear up this contradiction?

Regards
DL

 

"Who has more control of our thinking; God or Satan?"

False dichotomy. There are other choices, e.g., "neither".

 

Perhaps I'm missing something but if satan controlled "our" thinking, what the hell has god been doing? AFterall, isn't his entire pitch to resist the tempations of sins thru the glorification of his word?

These logical disconnects never cease to amaze me.

 

Who has more control over the character's thoughts, the antagonist or the author of the novel work?

 

Not to be a grammar nazi but I misplaced apostrophe's bug me. I think you meant "the characters' thoughts", didn't you?

 

Scripturally speaking, that option is not really open to believers.

Regards
DL

 

I am in the same position, hence my asking Christians to deal with the contradiction you point out.

Regards
DL

 

The author. He controls the antagonist and puts his word into his mouth.

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DL

 

I wasn't implying plurality. I kept it singular in balance with the singular "antagonist".

 

God is as sovereign over His novel work as an author is over his. In fact, somehow, in someway that I don't understand, God is infinitely more sovereign over His creation than an author is over his novel work.

The difference between two finites is always finite. The difference between a finite and an infinite is always infinite.

 

How can you know that anything after those words are true, when no supernatural realm or God has even been proven to exist?

Whatever you say of that unknown and unfound realm and God just become speculative nonsense. Right?

Regards
DL

 

No particle of matter can occupy the same position, relative to the balance of matter, in any two increments of time. Therefore, all matter is subject to constant change.
Anything subject to change is subject; it is contingent in its being.
Matter is contingent in its being.
If contingent being exists; by definition, necessary being must exist.

I do not believe in a necessary being because I found one in the bible.
I believe in the God of the bible because I can find in the God of the bible a necessary being.

Material contingency is empirical evidence of necessary being, AKA God.

 

that's called the god of the gaps fallacy.

 

My theory is that G-d created Adam and Eve to confront Satan and set in motion a series of events that would eventually lead to the Restoration of All Things....... and I think that All... really means all..... Eventual Universal Salvation.

I suspect that Lucifer Satan may have been more in line with Stanley Milgram Ph. D. than with the Marquis de Sade..... but I suppose both comparisons would probably have some validity.

Being angry with our Creator has negative consequences........

Beings composed of the energy of ninth dimensional space - time should not pick a fight with the tenth and eleventh space time dimension........ not to mention two third of the rest of the ninth dimension!

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html

 

Maybe the highest invisible intelligences / Intelligences are not trying to prove themselves....... maybe they are trying to prove you and I?????

 

You asked the question and now you are criticizing someone because you claim there is no answer?

What was your point of all of this then?

You bored or something?

 

No, it's not. It's a cosmological argument from contingency. It's not an argument that you have encountered. It's not an argument that you can cite, entitled "The God of the Gaps" fallacy or anything else.

 

Which also means that at some point in time. god is you, and when that happens, god decides to stay in you.

Welcome to graduating to a Gnostic thinking. You have just been improved. Congratulations

Regards
DL

 

An impossible concept for man and only workable in an imaginary realm where all knowledge would dwell.

Good luck with that.

We die while death does not live in an imaginary place.

Regards
DL

 

Both and none as we do not read and interpret either author the same way and wastes out time. Authors are irrelevant here. What they say is.

Regards
DL

 

If you are not going to give an effect, again you are just wasting our time.

This is why I seldom bother with you. Sorry for going to the personal. I lack couth today

Regards
DL

 

War is never boring.

Regards
DL

 

Demon est Deus inversus?

 

If such a thing as god lies outside of the physical universe, is not in it, or of it, how could such a thing ever be proven? It is beyond the ability of our minds to touch.

Some of the biggest questions we have are incapable of being answered. So, conjecture and speculation on both sides. That they refer to as "facts". ha ha

 

Perhaps my memory fails me but I think I met you over on Ezboard many years ago..... and I actually suggested that you would like political forum .com even better?!