The way Australia sees multiculturalism

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  1. unkotare

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    Wah, wah, wah. There have always been spineless pessimists crying that the sky is falling, and America has always outlasted them.

    Some people love to idealize the past in order to justify panic in the present.
     
  2. unkotare

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    Just the other day I received an essay written by two students who haven’t been in the country even six months yet. The topic of the essay was how important it is for them to learn English and adapt to life in America. The entire thing was an expression of their need and recognition to assimilate to their new country. I talk to the parents of such students all the time and the first thing in the last thing they always express how important it is for their children to learn English and getting education to do better in the future just like every parent wants for their kids.
     
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  3. Texas Republican

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    I was born in 1962 and essentially grew up in the 1970’s. I remember it clearly. We were more unified then than we are now. And we were more unified in the 1940’s than we were in the 1970’s.

    Do you see a trend?
     
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    I hitchhiked across Australia 3 years ago, despite that commercial there are plenty of racists in Australia. Not surprising considering they had a whites only immigration policy not that long ago.
     
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    Not really. We were less unified in the 60s. And considering segregation in the South, I'd hardly say that pre 1970s America was that unified. Plus the 2000s and 90s seemed like a pretty peaceful time when Americans got along with each other. Seems more like a wave then a trend.
     
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    Wall to wall racial riots?? What?
     
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    Your words were

    Therefore, the quote you are supposed to provide is one in which some prominent liberal claims that whites are responsible for black "failure and poverty"

    If you can't show one, just say it. And if you are intellectually honest, you can withdraw your statement. If you're not, you don't withdraw it. But stop wasting our time.
     
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    More BS.
    Apr. 2015
    Australia occasionally interrupts its ‘normal’ mistreatment of Aboriginal people to deliver a frontal assault, like the closure of Western Australia’s homelands.
    Australia has again declared war on its Indigenous people, reminiscent of the brutality that brought universal condemnation on apartheid South Africa. Aboriginal people are to be driven from homelands where their communities have lived for thousands of years. In Western Australia, where mining companies make billion dollar profits exploiting Aboriginal land, the state government says it can no longer afford to “support” the homelands.

    In announcing that the Australian government would no longer honour the longstanding commitment to Aboriginal homelands, Abbott sneered, “It’s not the job of the taxpayers to subsidise lifestyle choices.” The weapon used by Abbott and his redneck state and territorial counterparts is dispossession by propaganda, coercion and blackmail.

    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...a-has-again-declared-war-on-indigenous-people

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    Aborigine slums.
    G'day mates. Welcome to Australia.
     
  9. Texas Republican

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    The 60’s were a wild aberration. I remember the MLK and RFK assassinations, the moon landing, Vietnam, and the NY Mets and Jets winning surprising championships. Except for the 1860’s, it was the most dynamic decade in our history.

    The 1950’s and 70’s were far more laid back.

    We were extremely unified in WW II.
     
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    I see you trying to convince yourself of something. Obviously, when you were a child you were not very politically aware as you were busy growing up. There was plenty of rancor and contention in the 1970s and 1980s and 1990s etc. Also, in the 1970s there was no 24 hour news cycle, no Internet, and the media had not completely shaken off any pretense of impartiality. So, stop misreading history, misinterpreting your own memories, and misunderstanding conditions today in order to justify the sense of panic that you seem to need so badly.
     
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    War tended to unify back then. I question the unity or laidbackness of the 50s if you were black in the South.
     
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    Government control over information tended to promote whatever the government wanted. The American citizens in fdr's concentration camps didn't feel too "unified." And the Americans who supported the Nazis prior to WWII was, and has been, suppressed. Nothing is as simple as simpletons would have you believe.
     
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    SMH

    When I was 10 in 1972, I read our NY papers (front to back) everyday. I also watched the evening news on WNBC in NYC every night.

    You don't know what I knew back then. Don't ever tell me about myself.
     
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    That's 12% of our population. I'm thinking about the majority ... what life was like for most people.
     
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    Yikes.

    Even if you accepted that as a valid way of thinking, all the southerners and most people in major urban centers werent living in peaceful unity because of they way blacks were treated.

    You don't get to be an oppressor and say 'we are living in unity' or that people are getting along. The whites in the South weren't getting along with their fellow Americans.

    Even as divided as we are today, as a white man, id still take the present over any other time
     
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    Not to mention the birth of Black Lives Matter and ANTIFA under Obama. And his support for the perversion of the meaning of marriage. We won't talk about Obama trashing the middle east, the rise and expansion of ISIS and the millions of refugees that had to flee and afflict surrounding nations with a clash in values. I am so glad he's gone.
     
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    I agree. I would also like to add that America as an idea and it's institutions and constitution either works or it doesn't for people. If someone says that it only works if the people are white, or if they speak English then they don't really believe that the American system works.
     
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    We've had wide spread racial riots in America before. Black lives matter was hardly that.

    Antifa has been around since the 1930s.
     
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    What did the 10 year-old you think about the Baton Rogue riots? How about Boston in 1975? Detroit? Chapeltown?

    Ten year-old you was not paying much attention, or the current you is making **** up to convince himself of something.
     
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    Clueless.
     
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    Today, thanks to the left, we gave identity politics. Everyone sticks to their tribe.

    This is a cancer. I don't know if it's going to kill us, but it's already weakened us.
     
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    This reminds me of our American children.



     
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    You always want me to chase the stick

    I am not going to waste my time searching for a quote acceotable to you when I know you will deny it anyway

    Probably tomorrow or sone some liberal will supply a quote and when they do I will try to bookmsrk it for you

    Till then think about the logic behind reparations to black people and how tha5 relates to white privilage and white liberal guilt
     
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    We actually learned it from Canada.

    NZ has always had to accommodate the presence of a significant indigenous minority, which made it easier to accept pacific islanders when we were still running 'white Australia' (More or less), and more accepting of a certain level of diversity than we were.

    However, NZ ran a racially discriminatory immigration policy virtually indistinguishable from the white Australia Policy in practical terms. In fact, they used the WAP as a device to limit access of any sort to non-whites by tying entry to NZ to the ability to reside in Australia (even that wasn't always enough, and non-white Australians sometimes had trouble getting visas). It wasn't until Lange in the mid-80s that a fully non-discriminatory immigration policy was implemented.

    When it came to fully embracing multiculturalism we got over a decade's head start.
     
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    They said that they are one and they sing with one voice that is monoculture not multi culture. A culture made up of people from multiple backgrounds is great, but in order to be multicultural you have to tolerate Nazis because Nazism is a cultural ideal. You would also have to tolerate jihadists and Christian extremists.

    I think people say multi culture when they really mean multi-ethnic. When people move to Australia they have to follow your laws. They have to at least tolerate your customs. That is monoculturalism.
     

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