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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I get it, You are pissed off at Jews.

    The Reagan tax cuts that worked were special. They were new. They had not been tried prior nor since Reagan did it.

    Study ACRS. It explains the Reagan cuts that put us all back to work, restored hope in this nation and changed it. ( Reagan gave us hope and change first)

    As to Trump, he was also elected on hope and change. We saw what Obama did and hoped things would improve. They have indeed.

    Think though what is going on. We are living in a span of time that every election is screamed about over and over until the president departs. And who does the most yelling? Democrats do the most. What a pity party they own.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Democrats once were so decent. for decades I was very loyal to that party. Those days ended with the bitter harassment of our troops from Vietnam. The way Democrats treated them, one might think they were returning storm troopers. As Kerry called them, baby killers.

    Still I voted for Carter. HE was my final Democratic party vote. He cured me. Still he did a lot of deregulation and looking back on that, he did a hell of a good job doing that.
     
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    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    Do you truly think they have ever "studied" anything other than their public union newsletter, their pay to post compensation plan from mediamatters et.al. or fliers they get from DFACS? ;)
     
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  4. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I leave up all your words but want now to address only point 6.

    How many illegal aliens will satisfy you? Reagan did not promote illegal aliens. Reagan persuaded the Democrats in the House to craft a law that gave those here, (not the future wave) a chance to be citizens.

    Guess what Democrats then did? They refused to change the immigration laws to change this that they promised to change. Sure, a short period of Rs running the House, they too could change. But they faced Democrats in the Senate and the presidency who refused all efforts to change.

    I blame Democrats.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We are discussing ACRS.

    No, I have long wanted Democrats to accurately explain the tax policy by Reagan they falsely call trickle down.

    Sure the gain in jobs was a kind of trickle down. It went down into the market where it revived the economy. But it was the typical person that got hired and spent his or her money.

    Reagan tried the new idea and it worked. We ought to try it now. What will happen is American firms will rush to do things here rather than there. There being outside the country.

    GM would have a major inducement to still close the factories in Brazil and rather save GM plants here and jobs too.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I want this read. I hope to make sure everybody reads your truthful remarks.
     
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    Same old, same old.

    Rinse and repeat.
     
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    Are/were you a Sanders supporter? He was the only one who seemed to care about the American worker as much as trump does.

    I doubt that Trump is anyone's image of an ideal President. He is the only one, that I know of, who is actually trying to fight for the middle class.

    Jeez, but the rest of your post is really 'out there'. The "suffering" is in the inner cities and in the "forgotten man" communities. Trump really is working to fix those issues. Instead of working to find solutions to those problems, his cynical opponents are working to thwart any and all improvements in those situations.

    Why do you support the elites?
     
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    I remember when democrats ran candidates that the people wanted. Now they force candidates down people’s throats because “they know better” and when it turns out they were wrong about the candidate they chose they blame the people who they screwed lol
     
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    But do you have any thoughts on his observations about the NYT and WaPo?

    You know, the topic of the thread?
     
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    Clearly, you are not spengali.... I suppose you practice that in the mirror first?
     
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    When the US Congress and president after president, both Republicans and Democrats, either refuses to do what is required to enforce immigration laws, or they actually encourage and promote it, then don't be shocked when we get candidates like Trump.Because he is the only one who actually wants to enforce our laws.

    With 10-20 million illegal aliens in our country, and many schools are swamped with teaching the children of illegals, and our welfare system is abused, and politicians creating sanctuary cities and states for them, even trying to allow illegal aliens to vote in elections now.... is it any wonder that the people are infuriated with our federal government?
     
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    At some point leftists are going to have to figure out why more Independents are supporting Trump. That more Latinos are supporting Trump. That more Asians are supporting Trump. That more Blacks are supporting Trump.

    Then they will need to figure out why so many people think they are the problem. Along with their Lame Stream Media.
     
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    What the left does not seem to comprehend is that the vast majority of people simply want to find a decent paying job, and to just get on with their lives. Trump understands this, which is why he has been trying do whatever is needed to jump start the economy and make America a great place to work and raise a family, without much support from Congress I might add.

    For previous presidents, improving the economy and cracking down on illegal immigration was just a campaign line to win election. Once they were elected they only concerned themselves with appeasing deep pocket lobbyists and special interest political donors. Trump's the first president in generations who actually puts the American people first, and for that the corrupt left and right want him to be taken down .
     
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    @thread as I know OP already realizes these things:

    1. Don't expect them to honestly assess the Reagan Tax Reforms in context of the vastly decreased deductions, increased AMT, shelter elimination, depreciation/ACRS, etc. that balanced the bracket lowering and streamlining. It's as if the only thing the reform did is "cut taxes for the rich" which identifies a person who doesn't know tax history from taxidermy (or a Complex hack lying towards keeping graft troughs they feed on up and growing). Also, since the reforms have been in place for 30+ years now, not done away with in that time, the accurate way to describe them or any other multi decade tax policy is simply "U.S. tax policy."

    2. "Trickle down" is political jargon, also used only by purposeful Complex liars and the ignorant. Whatever moniker one wants to use to describe the benefits of decreased taxes on voluntary private sector exchanges, there's nothing "trickling down" but in a historical tech boom and innovation, trickling -up- into enriching the innovators that people most want to trade with. A billion people get concrete wealth in the form of Iphones via voluntary exchange. AAPL shareholders get concentrated, but abstract wealth in return. Almost everyone is happy with the deal they made, and happy to let the innovators plow that abstract wealth back into more innovations...not to mention the vast charity of the super wealthy. The only people NOT happy are the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex parasites who didn't get to wet their beak to the extent they wanted at the end of a forced government gun barrel.

    Quite a trick lying to the public that involuntary fiat transactions forced on taxpayers by government are superior to voluntary transactions that have made our country absurdly wealthy at all levels in world historical terms, but they repeat the lie with aplomb ad infinitum, here and elsewhere. They don't give a rat's ass how harmful and divisive the lie is, just that it fools the weak-minded and ignorant.
     
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    Only problem with your diatribe is that America's golden age as a world power occurred AFTER higher income taxes on the wealthy were instituted and After the birth of a host of social programs to protect the poor. So it's difficult for you to prove your assertions as other than a "feeling". Now we can look at other countries and say too much in the way of socialists programs can be a problem, but there is no proof that a purely capitalistic approach is any more successful.

    The most successful countries are hybrids. And you cannot disprove that.
     
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    Yes, they do report what Trump actually does after he pays lip service to the opposite position. Don't blame the media if your boy spouts bigoted rhetoric one day, issues a press statement that "corrects" what he said previously, then tweets more bigotry the next day.

    At this point, Dirty Donnie doesn't have any character left to impugn. He's a pathological liar beyond all redemption. End of story.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The top reply to me is an outstanding commentary on Reagan.

    Unless the person never used the ACRS, they may be extremely ignorant of the law or how it worked. Oh my god, it worked so well we saw the economy lurch forward. We saw that once it kicked in that even rates of interest fell. The common man profited by lower interest rates vs what he had been paying. That was a direct benefit to working men due to Reagan. Reagan I still argue for a number of reasons ranks as this nations number 1 president of all time. No other president stood back up the economy of this nation, pressed the Soviets into failure, changed the mood of the entire nation from malaise (Carter said we had it) to joy. The Democrats fought Reagan once they realized the public loved Reagan. We had never had a president enter the Soviet Union to talk to their people until Reagan did it. There he explained freedom to them. Reagan changed the complexion of the Soviet Union which led to the changes to the former red steel curtain countries.

    What did Reagan do for the courts?

    This.

    During his two terms in office, President Ronald Reagan made 384 judicial appointments. Among those were five nominees (and four confirmations) to the Supreme Court: Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, Anthony M. Kennedy, Sandra Day O'Connor and Antonin Scalia.

    Federal judicial nominations by president - Ballotpedia

    https://ballotpedia.org/Federal_judicial_nominations_by_president
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In all his "lies" Trump is so far back of the liars in the Democratic party he can lie daily and never catch up.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is your feelings. History does challenge your attack on Reagan.
    I posted to Sanscrits post and he is accurate. And I added fuel to the fire. We truly appreciate Reagan. Time for this nation to also appreciate it's finest president.

    Let me take on some of the historians high ranked presidents.

    1. Washington. Washington engaged in traitorous acts vs his own country. Hey I am pleased to not live under England. But look at the English? They brag they have it better than we have it. So does Canada and so does Australia. Watch them brag they do not have our gun violence. So the idea that Washington had to flee England does not meet the smell test. England stopped supporting slavery ahead of America. As to acts involving legislation, notice they never mention this. As to his support of Slavery, only Jefferson ranks over Washington in numbers of men he enslaved. So to rank a slaver as number 1 is too much to bear.
    2. Jefferson. What did he do? He was part of the revolt against his government. I spoke of his slaves. Reported to number above 600. Apparently the Democrats fond story about him is how he bred with a black slave. Sure she was his captive.
    3. Abe the outlaw. Abe is the unique president. He forfeits his rank as a president by spending his entire time as a warrior president. Was he fighting other countries?
    Abe fought Americans. Abe set the army in motion that killed over 630,000 Americans. We never would call a mass murder a great man. So Abe the mass murderer falls off the list.

    Reagan did nothing close to those things. Reagan even aided other nations in getting freedom. Reagan could not tolerate owing humans. And he sure never set his army against Americans killing over 630,000 of them. Had the North Army remained home, none of those lost souls could have died like they died due to Abe.

    Before being ripped for being against American presidents, look at what is happening today to this American president.

    Day in and day out he is attacked. By our own people no less.
     
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    So, did Mexico send in that first payment yet ? Call me when they do and we can discuss lies and liars. Your boy is so far out in front , he circled the globe and is coming up behind the amateurs in the Democratic party.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Democrats really whine over the MAGA. It was fine for Obama to rip America and call for 1. HOPE and 2. CHANGE which was an affront to how we had been, since he painted us as a lousy country needing hope and change, but when he did not get the job done, all Trump wanted to do was restore our greatness.

    When were we great.

    Actually I cite two periods of time.
    1. Post the Indian wars when the Feds had not engaged in wholesale creating of draconian laws. We did have periods where the Feds stayed out of our business. Recall how much freer Americans were prior to the income tax? Recall that government did not confiscate remotely as much of the earnings of Americans as post the income tax law change?

    Even the lowest paying Americans still are taxed by states and communities they live in.

    When drivers cross the Bay Area Bridges, the fee to cross is a direct tax. And in CA those figures have skyrocketed every time Democrats took power.
    I recall crossing those major bridges for a quarter. Today you will pay much much more.

    We at first suffered lower income taxes. I suppose states had to actually do their jobs and we paid them taxes.

    Today your state wants money from the Feds. And some states avoid charging income taxes and some do not charge sales taxes. There the smell of freedom is clearer.

    So the last better period was post Wilson and pre FDR.

    We have struggled against Democrats since FDR in 1933. We are engaged in a struggle even Trump has not yet won. But Trump is trying hard.

    Some speak as if the military made us great. Since we have no problem with other lands, lands armed to wage war on us, even our military plays no role in us being great. If we get attacked, then it can play the role since Trump added to it's power.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    SF bay Bridge tolls history starting in 1989 ties into post 47 but I wanted to separate it for the moment.

    https://abc7news.com/traffic/historical-timeline-of-bay-area-bridge-toll-increases/4965635/

    January 1, 1989

    $1.00

    For the first time, all seven bridges adopted a uniform toll of $1.00, the result of voters passing Regional Measure One (RM1) in 1988. Before this, bridge tolls varied widely. It cost just 40 cents to cross the Benicia-Martinez and Carquinez bridges. The Richmond-San Rafael Bridge was the only one where the toll was already $1.00. The increased toll helped fund bridge improvements for decades, including the construction of the new Benicia-Martinez Bridge. All RM1 projects are now complete.




    January 1, 1998

    $2.00

    Nine years later, tolls doubled from $1.00 to $2.00 in 1998 with the addition of a seismic retrofit surcharge. The state legislature approved the increase in the form of Senate Bill 60 in 1997: "Impose a seismic retrofit surcharge equal to one dollar ($1) per vehicle for passage on the state-owned toll bridges in the region within the area of the jurisdiction of the Metropolitan Transportation Commission, which includes the City and County of San Francisco, and the counties of Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, Napa, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Solano and Sonoma."

    This bill also allowed for research and development to begin on replacing the eastern span of the Bay Bridge, which had partially collapsed during the Loma Prieta earthquake in 1989.


    California voters had already approved the Seismic Retrofit Bond Act of 1996, authorizing the sale of $2 billion in bonds to pay for earthquake safety improvements. SB60 essentially doubled that, bringing in an estimated $2.6 billion.




    Bay Area bridge tolls are rising for the fifth time in the past 30 years. Here's a look at the new rates taking effect January 1st.




    July 1, 2004

    $3.00

    Six years later, voters approved Regional Measure Two (RM2) to add $1.00 to the existing toll. The additional revenue was earmarked for transportation improvement projects. RM2 helped pay for the fourth bore of the Caldecott Tunnel, San Francisco's central subway, BART's connection to Oakland International Airport, more lanes on State Route 4, and the Clipper card system.




    July 1, 2010

    $5.00

    Bay Bridge: $4.00 - $6.00

    The Bay Area Toll Authority approved a $1.00 toll increase to generate $165 million annually for more seismic retrofit projects. The majority of the money was needed to pay for improvements on the Antioch and Dumbarton bridges, which were the last two bridges to undergo a retrofit.


    For the first time, the Bay Bridge introduced congestion pricing, which set different tolls for peak, off-peak, and weekend times. A discount for carpool drivers on all bridges was also introduced at this time, allowing carpools with FasTrak to pay half the regular toll during peak commute times. Previously, carpool drivers did not have to pay any toll.




    January 1, 2019

    $6.00

    Bay Bridge: $5.00 - $7.00

    For the first time in almost a decade, tolls will rise again due to the legislature passing Senate Bill 595 and voters approving Regional Measure Three (RM3). The money will fund almost $4.5 billion worth of highway and transit improvements around the Bay Area, including new BART cars, expanded ferry service, and more express lanes.

    Two lawsuits challenge the toll increase, on the basis that it amounted to a tax, not a fee, and therefore required two-thirds majority to pass. RM3 was approved by 55% percent of voters across all nine Bay Area counties. The Bay Area Toll Authority has decided to collect increased tolls, but hold the money in escrow until the lawsuits are resolved.




    The Future

    RM3 also approves additional $1.00 toll increases to take effect on January 1, 2022 and January 1, 2025.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Democratic party lying history in America dates back to 1933. Trump had not yet been born.

    I believe Trump has levied tax on Mexico. He should be able to spend that on the Wall.
     
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    They will be taught a huge lesson in 2020

    Keep in mind how the press tried to scare us all promising us Hillary would win.
     

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