I love how the party of Benghazi-gate and birtherism has the nerve to call the dems paranoid

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  1. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We're going in circles. I just told you that the consensus of the intelligence community is that Russia interfered with the election to help Trump. Do I need to draw you a map so you don't get lost?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What do you think of the Obama team that came up with that report?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They said in the report that I produced, and you refused to produce clearly says they do not know the names of any Russians who could do that. I called a public disgrace for such a report to even appear with poor documentation.
     
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    So like anonymous people within the intelligence community making claims that can't be verified?
     
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    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We know how Russia helped Hillary. There is a recording of Schiff colluding with Russians. But after numerous attempts to involve the Trump campaign, none of them took the bait.
     
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    4 out of 17 intelligence agencies said that.

    Would you like me to post the apology from the NYT's where they said the consensus also?
     
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    I don’t care, I still think they’re the last people I’d trust, and with good reason.
     
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    Four Americans did not die in the dems effort to claim Russian Collusion. You should be ashamed of yourself for making this comparison.
     
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    He's just digging himself a hole. The DOJ / FBI actively subverted congressional oversight during the course of the Benghazi hearings. Subpoenas weren't honored and criminal referrals were offhandedly rejected. That culture of insubordiination and unaccountable misconduct got carried over, and to a degree it's still in practice. Benghazi was the proverbial tip of the iceberg.
     
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    How does it change the fact that the dems ARE in fact paranoid? Maybe you aren't if what you claim is true (big if), but the paranoia of the TDS mob has been on full display during the last 3 years, still is.

    Oh but investigations need probable causes.... like [ahem] the death of a US ambassador was, the fake unverified salacious dossier, not so much.

    Lest we forget that Mueller knew that there had been no collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia on May 18th, 2017, the next day after he started his "investigation". He had all the NSA intercepts, he knew the dossier was a fake, he had 1 year worth of spying and eavesdropping data on Trump and his campaign on his desk. On that day that possibly legitimate investigation became a witch hunt and a fishing expedition.
     
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    You mean the same guys that were actively working to stop a candidacy and take down a President? Those guys? Mueller knew there was no collusion by August 2017.
     
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    Yes, a pivot to obstruction and why you saw the heavy handed tactics to arrest people like Stone. The idea was to entrap Trump into doing something that could be considered obstruction but all they got were tweets which are covered under the first and a civil right.
     
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    That Russia helped or wanted Trump as president is pure speculation by Trump haters.
    Benghazi was a serious breach of the responsibility and accountability of our Commander-in-Chief.
    I believe it was Hillary who first raised the birther issue in 2008.
     
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    Poor ole Brennan went from spittle to flop sweat.
     
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    You mean the intelligence community that worked overtime trying to infiltrate the Trump campaign in order to create the Russian collusion narrative and, failing that, installed an insurance policy to get Trump impeached? That intelligence community?
     
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    The timeline is most interesting. The Obama administration prepared and issued this report after the election when they were desperate to explain Hillary's loss. This followed the National Security Advisor in about August 2016 telling the counter-intelligence people to stand down from looking into Russian hacking and election interference when Obama thought any public knowledge of Russian interference would taint Hillary's election victory.
     
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    None of the birther stories suggests any link between the Clinton campaign, let alone Clinton herself, and the advocacy of theories questioning Obama’s birth in Hawaii.

    One of the authors of the Politico story, Byron Tau, now a reporter for the Wall Street Journal, told FactCheck.org via email that “we never found any links between the Clinton campaign and the rumors in 2008.”

    Ted Cruz and Donald Trump claimed the so-called “birther” movement originated with the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2008. While it’s true that some of her ardent supporters pushed the theory, there is no evidence that Clinton or her campaign had anything to do with it.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/was-hillary-clinton-the-original-birther/
     
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    Trump's own people rely on the lack of intelligence community installed by Obama.

    Putin loved that Hillary gave them 20% of our Uranium production and the billions she gave to Iran to buy Russian weapons and delivery systems.

    Putin's ultimate goal was undermining Americans' confidence in our Democratic processes. So, when Hillary was the front runner, he supported Trump. When Trump won, he funded Democratic Party protests.

    Little did Putin know that he's get as much help from the US media and Democrats in his ultimate goal.
     
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    Yes
     
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    No, you laid out an argument on our questionable foreign policy but gave no proof or argument how that makes the intelligence factions of government make us unsafe.
    You are the one being obtuse.
     
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    I agree remember it was the Clinton campaign staff that started the birther movement and it was the obama admin that started the need for the investigation of Benghazi by lying about what happened. Not surprised they are at it again with this hoax
     
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    Swing and a miss. Just as o expected. You must be under the impression that lying about WMDs in Iraq, or arming Obama’s moderate jihadist hasn’t had any ramifications.

    Sad.
     
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    Really? They "lied" about WMD's? They "armed" jihadist's....and now they are "Obama's"? The only impression I'm under is you like to make things up to make a point.
    That is worse than sad, it's pathetic.
     
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    Links, or something other than "dude, trust me"?
     

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