Attorney General William Barr Defends Handling Of Mueller Report

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  1. icehole3

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    Barr is saying he has his reasons for doing what he is doing. Translation to Dems, it means you're being sold a bill of goods by the MSM. When they try to sell you stories about these so-called leaks they aren't from reliable sources. The MSM needs this story to live so they can make money selling advertising and selling papers to Left wing nut cases. Barr is not going to kiss your butts. You will get a report soon with black boxes.

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    Attorney General William Barr Defends Handling Of Mueller Report
    Barr has said that he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein determined that Mueller’s evidence was insufficient to support an obstruction allegation.

    Barr said he was continuing to work with Mueller’s office on redactions to the report so that it could be released to Congress and the public.
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/barr-mueller-report-defense_n_5ca6919fe4b0a00f6d3d2495
     
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  2. Hoosier8

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    They have to pivot to another outrage and conspiracy theory since their last one just died on the embers of truth.
     
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    Their whole case was about getting Trump on obstruction, it was never about collusion. It was an obstruction trap and it didn't work because they're so sloppy.
     
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    First, I don't think you can "trap" someone into obstruction. Second, I want to see if I have this correct. A guy that writes a 19 page memo on why a sitting President can't be indicted on obstruction is put into the job of determining if the President obstructed justice and now is defending his position on why he determined that the sitting President didn't obstruct justice. Did I get that right? What could be wrong with this picture.
     
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    If you have the time, do us all a favor and explain what an 'obstruction trap' is.
     
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    The NY Times and Post are desperately trying to save face after 2 years of fake news. Newsflash...more fake news isnt the way to do it. Granted it might get the dem sheep some fresh meat for a little while, it's not going to end well. We know the conclusion. No obstruction, no conspiracy
     
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    Yeah we know the “reasons”
    To protect trump and get his son a job.
     
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    The only "conclusion" you know so far is the one Barr has told you. I'll bet you won't like the conclusion you get when Mueller's report is finally pulled from the hands of trumps puppet Barr.
     
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    He quoted Mueller....no conspircy...which a lines with the testimony of Page, Comey, McCabe, Clapper et al

    "[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities." https://www.npr.org/2019/03/24/706351394/read-the-justice-departments-summary-of-the-mueller-report

    Now if Mueller did make a conclusion about obstruction, which the DOJ's memo says they didn't...why wouldn't Mueller publicly state that, like he did with the fake Buzzfeed story? Why would he continue to work with Barr?
     
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    The investigation was a setup by McCabe and Rosenstein. Setup/trap whatever you want to call it. And it was for obstruction. For the firing of Comey.

    FBI Director James Comey was fired on Tuesday May 9th, 2017.

    McCabe immediately began a criminal ‘obstruction’ investigation the next day, Wednesday May 10th; and he immediately enlisted Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

    These McCabe statements line up with with text message conversations between FBI lawyer Lisa Page and FBI agent Peter Strzok – (same dates 5/9 and 5/10):

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    The next day, Thursday May 11th, 2017, Andrew McCabe testifies to congress.

    With the Comey firing fresh in the headlines, Senator Marco Rubio asked McCabe: “has the dismissal of Mr. Comey in any way impeded, interrupted, stopped, or negatively impacted any of the work, any investigation, or any ongoing projects at the Federal Bureau of Investigation?”

    McCabe responded: “So there has been no effort to impede our investigation to date.
    However,On Tuesday May 16th, Rod Rosenstein takes Robert Mueller to the White House to talk with the target of the ‘obstruction’ criminal investigation, under the ruse of bringing Mueller in for a meeting about becoming FBI Director. This meeting was quite literally advanced reconnaissance.

    The next day, Wednesday May 17th, 2017, Rod Rosenstein and Andrew McCabe go to brief the congressional “Gang-of-Eight”: Paul Ryan, Nancy Pelosi, ¹Devin Nunes, Adam Schiff, Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, Richard Burr and Mark Warner. on Friday May 12th McCabe met with DAG Rod Rosenstein to discuss the issues, referencing the criminal ‘obstruction’ case McCabe had opened just two days before.
    Immediately following this May 17, 2017, Go8 briefing, Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein notified the public of the special counsel appointment.
    According to President Trump’s Attorney John Dowd, the White House was stunned by the decision.

    Now, with hindsight and full understanding of exactly what the purposes and intents were for Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein to bring Robert Mueller to the White House, revisit this video from June 2017:

     
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    Quite bending the truth. He only quoted PART of what Mueller wrote and you know it. Instead of making stuff up I'm going to set back and wait for all of this to unravel. I'm sure it will and I'm willing to bet trump won't like it.
     
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    See post #10
     
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    What am I making up? He quoted the very relevant part....ie the conclusion...no conspiracy. Sorry, it's hard for you all to except reality.
     
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    Barr has done nothing wrong. The left just loves to bitch.
     
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    Nope, you don't have this correct:

    1. Mueller didn't charge obstruction, didn't recommend obstruction charges, didn't get a sealed obstruction indictment, didn't name Trump an unindicted conspirator. And he wrapped up his investigation. He had no case is the only explanation of him not charging Trump.

    2. It's Barr's job to exercise his professional judgment. That's what he is paid to do. That his professional philosophy is and has always been different from yours or Nadler's is your and Nadler's problem, not his.

    3. Rat Rosenstein agrees with Barr on this legal matter.

    4. The DOJ legal department agrees with Barr on this legal matter.

    Now you have this correct. Welcome.
     
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    Well, Mueller and his team hasn't disputed Barr's conclusions. When they do, you may have a point. As of now their silence qualifies as a tacit agreement.

    PS when you provide names of Mueller's team members and their very specific disagreements - you'll have a case... Unsubstantiated anonymous third degree of separation based rumors spread by disgraced Fakenews Times don't even begin to cut it.
     
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    When Barr releases the Mueller dossier in mid April, the dems, especially lil Adam and fat ass Jerry will find the timing to be very concerning. They will cry foul because it will be released during their vacation time.
     
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    Barr is basically saying to the Lefty Wacko Jacko's, go spit.
     
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    I'll also bet that nothing will link Trump directly to any involvement. I'm sure Russia tried their hardest but Mueller's report would have much more damaging leaks if any of that were true.

    I'm going to guess you'll be sitting back and waiting for a while and you'll be very disappointed in the end.
     
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    Even the Summary said the Russians tried but Team Trump wouldn't bite, it's so funny seeing the Dems like this. MSM just playing with their emotions. My advice for Dems, turn off the tube and take a walk outside...get some fresh air...walk the dog. Do some stuff you used to do before Hillary got beat.
     
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    Funny, I thought dems always act like they got a pee....now!
     
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    You might want to actually read his memo. He does not say that. He says that the decision was not to seek an indictment.

    That does not mean the allegation does not stand. After all, Trump has been trying to interfere in the investigation from the beginning. That's how he wound up with a Special Counsel in the first place.

    He also said Trump was not exhonorated, something Trump evidently ignored when he decided to jump in front of it and claim it said the opposite.
     
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    Actually, the summary does not say that, either. Read it sometime. Learn something.

    Besides, the Trump team made their enthusiasm for the prospect plain, and we have no shortage of publicly available information to confirm that.

    The only thing missing are indictments, which the Special Prosecutor declined to recommend. We do yet know why. Perhaps because there is only about 15 months left in Trump's term and the process would probably run out before Trump did.
     
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    Glad to see Barr calling out the leftist propaganda machines, this is a clear sign he is working with mueller and likely taking a page from his playbook when he correctly called our buzzfeed
     
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    Well the apparent obstruction hope was built around the firing of Comey, but to reasonable people that was in no way obstruction. The investigation went on full force and there was no underlying crime to obstruct. The media almost pleaded for DT to fire Mueller but unfortunately for them that never happened.
     
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