TV comedy president takes big lead in Ukraine election

So wait, he had a career in a non political position, so we should harp on him for this? Why?

If you ask me, I would MUCH rather have a person who had to run their finances and learn to market and grow their "brand" rather than a career politician.

For some reason, the media keeps pushing ideas like this, you can see it where they rip on the President of Ukraine before who was in the chocolate business:

"let’s not forget that President Petro Poroshenko, the current leader of Ukraine, made his name as a businessperson in the chocolate business, a Slavic combination between a hardened magnate and Willy Wonka."

Anything they can to belittle the persons past and make people think they are "wierd" or "not mature enough" or something, the media is a pathetic joke as they do this with anyone not coming from politics.

It is so ridiculously and INSANELY obvious that the media is a corrupt organization bent on creating an environment in life that requires more government control.

Delenda mediis est

 

So you think it should be divided up between Russia and who else? Or is it just all Russian in your opinion?

 

Russia isn't a nation.....nor is it European, its borders were always artificially drawn up.....just like former SU.....an artificially created entity destined for the shitbin.....where it ended up.

It's not European....and has no history of it. It's an asiatic fiefdom masquerading as one.....the most ugly of it.

Oh it's Moi621....the great canadian conspiracies....what a surprise. I watched Bladerunner2049 with Ryan Gosling....the canadian actor))...Harrison Ford looked....so OLD.

So the UCC up in Canada is some kinda "terrorist" group....like ISIS? So was Lois Riel! Are you Metis by any chance?

 

What are you on about... who said

don't put words in my mouth then proceed to tell me how silly "your" words are.

My point is he is not running on any clear policies, he is also..... wait for it.... a comedian. Which aptly underlines the joke Ukrainian politics have become. Ukrainians vote for him because the alternative suck.

 

I am a fan of Ukraine has been part of Russia
longer than Texas, California, etc. Have been
The designation of "Republic" under the ole USSR was an administrative unit.
Not hardly a free standing nation anymore than the 'stans.

Accepting the above would never happen,
I would settle for a partition of Ukraine between the original
and all those lands added to the West where the religion is more
Roman Catholic and the ethnicity more Polish, Lithuanian, German.

Either option is better for "people" than the current
of borders without a "nation".

Crimea is Russian.

 

Hmmm , Then iIwould recommend Russia should be partitioned as well.....since much of it was stolen anyway. Where to start......(West), Konigsberg back to Germany.....no history of Russian there......Moldova (Bessarabia), Romanian territory annexed by Moskva given some BS name, just like trans dnistra, Karelia back to Finland, Belorussia is old Poland, Crimea should be returned to Turkey, Caucauses Chechnya, Dagestan, Karabahk, Ingushetia are Muslim and integrated with Iran. Much of Siberia, according to the chinos belongs to them.....Vladivostok was called Yong Ming Cheng back in the day. Kurils need to be reunited with Japan. Alaska well we bought that, legally, have the paperwork also.....no chicanery there, but still some Rooski claim it was bamboozled somehow. Dunno, that's a start.)

 

Why not??We have a far from reality Tv host as our president!

 

Indeed. And the results are spectacular, full employment, skyrocketing stock market, manufacturing jobs are returning [without a magic wand], peace, prosperity, energy independence, growing wages, lower taxes, cheaper healthcare, stronger NATO, better trade deals.... Why they hell not indeed?

 

Maybe Ortega was that ... but what was his predecessor again? A US-backed, and brought in power, bloody dictator!
And what were the Contras again? US paid (paid by criminal money out of Iran-Contra deal) and backed terrorists who also were drug dealers!

Yep ... nice alternative to commi Ortega, eh?

And yes, Able Archer was staff ecercise and the Soviets bleived this was the real issue to start a nuclear surprise attack, against own intellegince results. And the US and rst of NATO? They had no cluw for a very long time and only becuase a double agent of KGB informed them, they reacted in shock at a status when the Soviet Nuclear Missiles were ready to launch in woods and the Russian Migs armed with nuclear bombs stand ready to start within 1min on runways!
Says much about US and NATO intelligence, when they even did not note these massiv Soviet reaction!

 

And why do they have an own language again?

 

Or a different dialect
as Hochdeutsch from Plattdeutsch.

 

Surprisingly sane analyzis from the US media outlet:

 

Because they do.....seems to be a problem for you?

 

This in no way justifies Russia's illegal actions toward Ukraine, however.

 

Nothing surprising about it. Our media are awesome, Fox Snooze aside.

 

Why not a comedian?
We have a clown...

 

Sure...like I said we cleaned house.

Uh yeah sure.....i think there were Sov nukes in EG all along, so Able Archer really didnt have much to do with it ....other than we psyched out the Sovs really good. Double agent of KGB? Maybe you watched "Deutschland 83" and got your idea there?).

There were thousands of soviets in EG.....not something we didn't know.

 

No, it’s a different language. Ukrainian, Polish and other Slavic languages differ from Russian significantly - look into names of months (just what comes in mind now). Those words are old Slavic words. Dialects wouldn’t have such significant differences.

 

First of all, Ukrainian language is different in different parts of Ukraine. There is one Ukrainian language in Lvov, another one in Kiev, the third one in Kharkov and so on. And the difference between them is pretty significant. People in Lvov can easily talk to Poles, people in Kharkov can do the same with Russians. For example, if you speak Russian, you can speak the same language in Petersburg, Yekaterinburg and Vladivostok. There are some accents but the language would be 99,5% the same. Ukrainian is different. One may say there are several Ukrainian languages. In the Soviet times the standard, literature Ukrainian was the Poltava dialect (central Ukraine). Today, as western Ukraine prevails in politics and ideology, the standard moved to the West - to Lvov.
Anyway, this difference means mostly vocabulary. Western Ukrainian language uses a lot of Polish words, some Hungarian ones etc. But the structure of the language is virtually identical to Russian one. That's why if you Russian, if you don't speak Ukrainian, you can easily understand it after some time. It's like someone speaks like you, but uses some unknown words - maybe half or about.

 

If you're talking about Able Archer, then do it right, please ... the West had no idea that the SS-20 were disengaged and ready to launch in the woods of the EC and on the air bases the Migs with nuclear bombs and pilots with Readiness to sit in the cockpit waiting for the alarm to start!

Of course Andropov was a psycho ... no question ... and even his reaction to insanity was ... but the West had totally ignored that and did not really get it.
Read the story of the East German Stasi Top Spy "TOPAS" ... Rainer Rupp ... on that. He was almost accused of treachery by the KGB because he did not find any signs of a NATO attack in Brussels and reported it ... desperately trying to protect the free, because he was clearly being asked what was needed from the East. No, of course not a hero, but enemy spy, but very interesting what happened!

 

In respect of Russia it's usually a mix of delirium, phantasy, arrogance and ignorance.
That's why one of the most effective methods of state propaganda in Russia is a simple translation of articles of western newspapers and magazines in such sites like Inosmi.ru and Inopressa.ru. People read what they write about Russia and realize how stupid westerners are.

 

No .,.. a difference which is minimum like between German and Dutch. And no one will ever tell that both are the same and one culture etc.

 

lol full employment? Cheaper healthcare? Stronger NATO?

Well, you got the lower taxes part right anyway. Now about the deficit and the national debt............?

 

The right never wants to talk about how Nicaragua was doing under US puppet Samoza. Nor do they want to talk about the actual acheivements of the Sandinista's in land reform, reducing poverty, increasing literacy and the highest level of gender equality in Latin America.

"Under Luis Somoza, Nicaragua experienced high economic growth especially during the 1960’s and 1970’s and became one of Central America’s most developed nations. However in 1972 the capital Managua suffered a major earthquake that destroyed 90% of the city. Luis Somoza’s embezzling most of the relief money coupled with the government’s corruption regarding the rebuilding of Managua gave the necessary impetus to the Sandinista National Liberation Front (FSLN) founded by Carlos Fonseca to become a popular opposition party."

"It is important to understand the nature of US and oligarch coups in this era and the role of media and NGO deception because it is repeated in multiple Latin American and other countries. We can expect a similar attack on recently elected Andrés Manuel López Obrador in Mexico, if he seeks the changes he has promised.

The US has sought to dominate Nicaragua since the mid-1800s. The wealthy in Nicaragua have sought return of US-allied governance since the Sandinistas rose to power. This failing coup does not mean the end of their efforts or the end of corporate media misinformation. Knowing what is really occurring and sharing that information is the antidote to defeating them in Nicaragua and around the world.

Nicaragua is a class war turned upside down. The government has raised the living standards of the impoverished majority through wealth redistribution. Oligarchs and the United States, unable to install neoliberalism through elections, created a political crisis, highlighted by false media coverage to force Ortega to resign. The coup is failing, the truth is coming out, and should not be forgotten."

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/07/13/correcting-the-record-what-is-really-happening-in-nicaragua/

Same narrative playing out in Venezuela.......... with the same result. Ordinary people are the ones that suffer.

 

Hmm, these are documented facts. The unemployment rate is lowest in 50 years, NATO chief confirms that it's stronger than it was before Trump and gives credit to Trump, healthcare cost went down for the first time... like ever.

National debt and deficit are still issues..., Trump will tackle them in his 2nd term.... You don't expect us to rely on progressives to solve these issues, do you?