We finally hear from the Mueller team

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  1. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don’t think congress would leak it? That’s insane.
     
  2. Sandy Shanks

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    You and I both know the answer to your question. Trump's fans know there is very damaging information in the report pertaining to Trump. Barr is a close ally to Trump and extremely biased in favor of the Presidency along with negative bias toward the report itself. Trump's fans want Trump's chosen ally to provide his version of the Mueller Report to Congress.

    It's obvious, but, like I said, Trump's fans can't even be honest with themselves.
     
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  3. PatriotNews

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    I oppose releasing the unredacted version for 5 reasons:
    1) It has secret grand jury testimony
    2) It has classified information
    3) It would reveal sources and methods
    4) It has information on individuals who are not charged with a crime and they have 4th Amendment Privacy Protections
    5) It's against the laws passed by Congress to release the report punishable by felony. If Barr released it in full, he would be guilty of a felony
    6) (BONUS) The Democrats just want the entire report to use as campaign fodder to meddle in the election of 2020, and we've had enough of Democrats election meddling (#SPYGATE)

    There, does that answer your question?
     
  4. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you are in favor of hiding the report from congress and the public until at least after the 2020 election. Got it....Too bad for you and your delusional cohorts, that isn’t going to happen. The US Congress has every right to get this report just as they did in Watergate and Whitewater.
     
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    No, Mr. Strawman Argument, I'm in favor of releasing the entire report as allowed by law.

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    Good, me too. Release the entire report to Congress and as much as possible to THE PEOPLE of the US. No more excuses.
     
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    Right. Then the AG must redact it according to the law.
     
  8. struth

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    How did I not answer your question? I feel like I am being very respectful to you and your feelings...so why are you being so rude?
     
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    We know no such thing, nor do you. What I believe is that congress has no business harassing innocent men and women just because they have had a business relationship at some point in time with the president.
     
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  10. Sandy Shanks

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    Exactly what Trump and Trump Republicans want to happen. With his moronic, disingenuous, false statements, and brainless decisions Trump has been begging to be impeached.Then when he is acquitted by the Trump Republican controlled Senate, Trump becomes a martyr and the Democrats are blamed for trying to divide our nation.

    Not going to happen. The Democrats aren't that stupid, which explains why the Democratic leadership is discouraging talk of impeachment. The House could impeach but only if there is overwhelming and bipartisan grounds for doing so.

    The Democrats want to run against a crippled candidate in 2020, not a martyr. They won't play Trump's game, but they are talking notes.
     
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    Re-read your answer and my response to your answer. You blew the question.

    Gee, I'm sorry your feelings are hurt, but when you blow a straightforward question written in English, you deserve whatever is coming to you.

    Is that the new tactic by Trump's fans. If they have a serious reading comprehension problem, are they going to plead their feelings were hurt?

    Geez! I don't know what to say to that.
     
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    Oh, yes, I do know. I have complied two lengthy threads that provide evidence of collaboration, conspiracy, obstruction, campaign fraud, and hush money payoffs. There is a great deal the public knows about such crimes. I suspect that is about 1/100th of what Mueller knows.

    Why do you think I have become such a harsh critic of Trump? I know what he has done. This man never should have become our President. I think Trump knows that now. The way he has been acting for the past four months indicates he is begging to be impeached. At times, he acts like he has a serious mental problem. He constantly reverses his decisions. He consistently is at odds with his own cabinet. He has become a pathological liar, and he no longer can tell what is real and what is unreal. He prefers the unreal or fantasies.
     
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    Yes, you have furnished single bit of rumor have baked theory and anti trump conspiracy known to man, most of not even remotely illegal.
     
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    in other words, you have nothing to counter anything said. The violent left just cant get over the fact that Hillary lost.
     
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    I said I wanted all that is legally possible to be released
     
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    So stalling for the sake of stalling huh? Just trying to run out the clock to 2020. That really sounds great for us people hoping government will actually function.
     
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    The goal of the dnc is the same goal of putin to spread discourses, division and lies
     
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    Idk if it’s the goal but they are definitely doing what the Russians want
     
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    You did not answer my question. I asked why shouldn't the un-redacted version be given to Congress. You said you oppose releasing the un-redacted version.

    I was quite specific when I meant only Congress, not the public. You evaded that distinction.

    The point being, Trump's fans refuse to answer the question because they know there is damaging evidence against Trump in the Mueller Report. It is obvious from their answers.

    Which, of course, was my point in asking the question in the first place. Trump's fans are quite predictable.
     
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    Give me a break. Giving it to Adam Schiff is giving it to the public. That'll be leaked in less than a minute.

    But more importantly, IT'S AGAINST THE LAW.
     
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    But look at the good side... we got back that money from trumps people that were indicted and sent to prison.mueller made it very clear that Trump was not cleared of obstruction of justice even though the Pathological liar said he was cleared on everything and only his base believes that
     
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    Yay, we all have something to celebrate, we cheer Trump's perfectly clean bill of health the validity of his amazing 2016 victory and the fortunately unsuccessful end of the witch hunt.

    And you celebrate the well deserved punishment of one tax cheat and one petty NYC taxi crook. Too bad the price was a 3 year long illegal witch hunt and a badly divided country, lest we forget $50 mln that you claim have been recovered. But hey we got Manafort and Cohen. Yay.
     
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    I wish these people can explain to me the difference between "not exonerated" and "no further indictments".
     
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    You seem unable to cope with reality. You speak in vague generalities.

    What will Schiff leak? Classified information? Grand jury testimony? Is that what you mean? Why didn't you say so?

    Because that is not what you mean. You mean Schiff will leak evidence against Trump?

    Yes, he will, but that will not be a leak. Perhaps you have been on Mars for the past two years, but investigating Trump for collaborating with the Russians and obstruction of justice is the entire purpose of the Mueller Reports. Democrats and Republicans want the Mueller Report revealed to the public, minus grand jury testimony and classified info.

    That means the evidence against Trump. Tell me, what is illegal about that?

    That is what you want hidden from public view.

    The House will use legal means to obtain the un-redacted version of the Mueller Report and the underlying evidence.

    Are you seriously suggesting the House will break the law to get the Mueller Report?

    Face it, you are backing a loser. Supporting him makes you look foolish. Give that some thought.
     
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    Leak what exactly?
     

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