"Who's gonna pay for Medicare for all?" is either stupid or disingenuous

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  1. rahl

    rahl Banned

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    I have no obligation to defend arguments you've pulled out of your ass and attribute to me. You've been called enough on it. Continue to make up arguments and attribute them to me, and you will be reported.
    strawman
     
  2. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    You called me on it?
    Ooooh baby. Throwing the big rocks now.
    Better duck.

    Gimme gimme gimme.
    Now pretend you don't advocate a tax based funding system to fund your little healthcare handout scheme
     
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    Aren’t you the chief gimmy person ?
     
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    I'm pretty sure this is a thread about you trying to get more free ****
     
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    In your dreams.
     
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    Get your hand out of other people's pockets
     
  7. dagosa

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    That seems to be your wish. You want everyone to pay more then they should for healthcare. Why are you trying to take everyone’s money ? That’s you in everyone else’s pocket, hiding what, you don’t want to share a waiting room with a minority ?
     
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    I have no interest in your money. Are you denying me the right to chose govt. healthcare over private. You’re the one denying my rights.
     
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    You have the right to other people's money?
     
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  10. rahl

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    as will all social services, they will of course be funded by taxes. Just like police, fire, trash collection, water etc.
     
  11. Prunepicker

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    [QUOTE="rahl, post: 1070381012, member: 47629"
    ...socialized medicine is proven superior to our system in both cost,
    and quality of care.[/QUOTE]
    This is a lie. The USA has the best and greatest healthcare in the world.
    Not being free is the ONLY excuse for not being called the best in the
    world by the Collectivists that are very bad a math, economics and
    reality.

    Please explain why Findland's economy came crashing down last month
    because of it's irresponsible healthcare system. Explain why in the
    Netherlands they're closing hospitals because they can no longer pay
    for them. Explain why Sweden and other "free healthcare" countries are
    in dire economic straits because of their "free healthcare" system.

    I doubt very seriously that you'll discuss this.
     
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    The was due to Democrat policies that prevented W from taking the steps
    to put damper on Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.

    But you know that.
     
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    I see you didn't provide a reasonable rebuttal. Just the usual "quick run from
    facts" and complain about a site. How about providing some real rebut instead
    of running from the facts?

    Face it, Finlands economy came crashing down because of their
    healthcare system.
     
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    Collectivists honestly believe they have a right to our money.
     
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    Never in the history of the world has this ever happened
    Not true. F'rinstance black and Hispanic unemployment is the
    lowest it's ever been in recorded history due to tax cuts. Jobs
    are paying more than ever. Collectivists can't stand it.

    Every time taxes were cut the economy improved. Every time.
    Every time taxes were increased (1913) the economy weakened.
    Why?
    Tax cuts "ALWAY" improve the economy.
    Tax increases "ALWAYS" harm the economy.
    If you disagree then put up the facts and stop with the talking points.
    This should be easy for you to do.

    Please put up your evidence, with links, so I can destroy them with facts.
     
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    Meaningless when it comes to determining who has the best healthcare.
    You see, people come to the USA from all over the world so they can get their
    in a timely fashion (read life saving) instead of waiting and waiting for care.

    I can't help but notice that all of those countries, except the USA, have very weak
    economies. Care to explain? With real data and not something you pulled out
    of your hat.
     
  17. dagosa

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    Meaningless.
    Where are your references. You seem to pull them out of a hat.
     
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    It only works on paper. It has never worked in real life in the real world.

    Can you explain why Finland's economy came crashing down last month
    because of the strain that their healthcare puts on their economy? This is
    supposed to the "crown jewel". Can you explain why the Netherlands are
    closing hospitals? I mean besides the fact that they can't afford to keep them
    open. Can you explain why Sweden, another so called crown jewel, is having
    to make desperate changes to their system because they can't afford it.

    The rest of your post, which I didn't include, was "pie in the sky" so I didn't see
    the need to include it.
     
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  19. dagosa

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    Haha.
    The economy of tax cuts and social program cuts has been signed onto by ever Republican administration. 9 of the last ten recessions were under republican administrations and tax cuts.
    That’s obvious to anyone not in the faux news bubble.
     
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    So Medicare has never been successfully tried in the United States ? It’s a universal single payer for everyone over 65 and disability coverage for every else.
     
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    still on the kick of trying to advocate for private insurance companies to steal our money. Admit it. You don’t want to share a waiting room with minorities .
     
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    Use a ligit free press news source. Maybe you’d be taken seriously.
     
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    It was republicans who passed the tax cuts. It was a Bush who lost 20 billion in Iraq.....lost, no record. It was a Bush who cooked the books on Katrina relief. It was a Bush who started a war we didn’t need to.
     
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    By that line of logic, let’s just have no taxes ( and services) at all.
    Let’s eliminate Medicare and social security so everyone is expected to die early on retirement, and dump every cent we’ll have to borrow into the military. Oh, that’s what Bush wanted to do just before his tax cuts lost one million jobs a month. Oh, you forgot Bush rad cuts were in full force during the crash. Sorry to burst your bubble.
    The Reagan tax cuts were in full force during his two recessions. The tax increase to 36% was in force during Clinton recovery.
     
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  25. squidward

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    The topic is how you want to fund your cool little single payer system.
    Do you personally want to pay the same fee as any other American? And don't give me no bullshit about the poor either. I'm asking you about your personal cost
     

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