Sandy Hook- It's the guns fault, it's always the guns fault.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Richard The Last, Mar 15, 2019.

  1. BobbyJoe

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    It really doesn't matter....

    we have established that any law is an infringement, and the gun supporters here apparently support various arms/weapons laws. So it's just a matter of figuring what those should be.

    As far as freedom of speech goes, to make it more clear, the 1st Amendment should have said:

    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to speak freely, shall not be infringed."

    And, of course, there are plenty of speech infringements....libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, intellectual property....
     
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  2. danielpalos

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    how was that? there are no Individual terms in our Second Amendment. All terms are collective and plural.
     
  3. Richard The Last

    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    OK, I stand corrected. But if I should feel guilty then so should you.
     
  4. WillReadmore

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    It's always the atom bomb's fault.

    We keep wanting to deny people their right to make atom bombs.

    We keep trying to prevent "high-risk" atom bomb owners from buying more atom bombs!. Get the government out of my rights!

    How come people don't realize that it's the people who set off these bombs, NOT atom bomb?
     
  5. Richard The Last

    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    So you are suggesting that the manufacturer of a product should be held accountable when their product is used in a manner not intended?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why should I? Or you? We just deal with it. Period! Only in the minds of the right-wingnut media shock-jocks would "guilt" have anything whatsoever to do with it.

    It's like feeling guilty because your child has congenital asthma. Do you not take them to the doctor because it wasn't your fault? Or do you just sit there feeling "guilty"?

    Ethnic-based inequality is a problem that exists in society. Society does what it can to deal with it. Not for even a second does anybody care whose fault it is.

    Which, BTW, is not the same as caring whose fault it is that we don't do anything about it
     
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  7. WillReadmore

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    Manufacturers in all fields face responsibility today - with the exception being gun manufacturers.

    The idea that some point in line between manufacture and abusive use should be entirely exempt from all possible liability is just plain ridiculous.

    There is a reason we have tort, just like there is a reason we have regulation and criminal law.
     
  8. Richard The Last

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    Manufacturers of guns, like any manufacturer, face responsibility if or when a product causes harm, damage or injury due to that product being faulty. They should be held accountable in those cases. On the other hand if their product is misused they should not be responsible. Should the manufacturer of an automobile or the maker of an alcoholic beverage be held accountable if a person gets drunk and kills someone in a car crash? Where does individual responsibility start?
     
  9. WillReadmore

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    I think the case in question involves a product marketing campaign that the prosecution sees as promoting use that is contributory to the outcome.
     
  10. Richard The Last

    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    And what marketing campaign is that? Is that the one where Remington suggests their firearms are for shooting children? This is just another case of the anti-gun crowd trying any way they can to eliminate private gun ownership in the U.S.
     

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