I'm Reading The Entire Mueller Report | 37% Completed | Very Disturbing

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  1. petef56

    petef56 Well-Known Member

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    If you truly desire to understand the reactions to the Mueller report it's crucial that we understand the legal definition of "Collusion"

    COLLUSION
    A secret agreement between two or more parties to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading, or defrauding others of their legal rights, or to obtain an objective forbidden by law typically by defrauding or gaining an unfair market advantage is an example of collusion. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collusion

    Ok with that in mind, let's say that anyone from Russia or Canada or any foreign country appeared on social media and promoted the candidate of your choice and you were actively working on your candidate's campaign when you encounter that post or tweet or whatever it is and you openly use it to support your candidate by reposting or any other means. This is perfectly legal and does not come anywhere close to being COLLISION. Again read the definition of collusion.

    In the examples you posted from the Mueller report I see no instance of anything that fits the definition of collusion. If I missed anything, please point it out and we can go from there.

    What many people don't acknowledge is that we now live in a global system/marketplace and what happens in the USA effects everyone around the globe. So naturally most foreign countries would like to be able to influence the American people to vote the candidate that would benefit their own country the most. When this occurs in connection to campaign staff, it is not COLLUSION unless it's done as a secret agreement meant to limit open competition by use of misleading or fraudulent info or techniques.

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  2. PatriotNews

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    I don't believe that's true.
     
  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which shows when it comes down to accepting facts that conflict with the disinformation Trumpists believe, they simply use denial in order to hold on to their false beliefs.
     
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    Irrelevant since the Court treated it as credible evidence and sent Cohen behind bars for doing it.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Cognitive dissonance is triggered when documented facts conflict with fallacious beliefs.
     
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    I don't recall him ever using the language "completely exonerated"
     
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  8. PatriotNews

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    "You , or your Am talk radio idiots made it up...She, and the right wing blog that peddled this story are counting in the supiditiy and short attention span of their audience!"

    AM talk radio? Right wing blogs? Look at my sources! Reuters, NBC News, AP, and CNN! This was the old BAIT and switch designed by Glenn Simpson. Promise dirt on Crooked Hillary and get the Magnitsky Act.
     
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  9. PatriotNews

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    It shouldn't be very hard to prove that he was reimbursed from campaign money.
    So it is a lie that you can't prove?
     
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    Democrats have colluded with Russians for decades and now that the ridiculous hoax is over it is time to start broadcasting the facts. More to come.
     
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    I don't have to prove anything at all to you.

    The court decided that the evidence against Cohen and your BLOTUS was beyond a reasonable doubt and incarcerated Cohen while your BLOTUS awaits his day in court on the same charges.
     
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    So you started with Volume II?

    Regardless. Don't vote for him next time. But please don't support an attempted coup by dark forces who should be in jail today.
     
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    No, he was given a plea deal. Nothing was proved in court. The fact remains it wasn't campaign funds so IMG_20190225_065547.jpg
     
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    Did you read the plea deal?

    Of course not!

    Had you done so you would have discovered that Cohen NAMED your BLOTUS as his co-conspirator to commit Campaign Finance Violations.
     
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    I’ll bet you use all these right wing code words so often that they appear in your auto fill!
     
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    I listened to the audio feed of Fox News for most of the day yesterday on Sirius. It was amazing, although I was not completely surprised.

    That morning, I was looking at the newsstand were I get my coffee. The usual collection of local and national press was there. USAT, the Times, the Post, the WSJ, the Daily News and the Post.

    Every single one of them said Trump implicated in numerous crimes.

    Except the one Rupert Murdoch owns............ It said “Trump cleared”.

    As if wishing, would make it so!
     
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  17. PrincipleInvestment

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    Cohen, who's sooo credible that congressional mouth breathers declined to accept 14 million pages of Cohen's smoking gun confessions? :roflol:
     
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    Hillary lost, get over it....
     
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    It is like a segment of the nation lives in an alternative reality all of their own making where up is down and outside is inside. Reminds me of the old expression about those that the gods would destroy they first make crazy.
     
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    VAilnitskaya is indicted for obstruction of Justice in connections with money laundering.

    Try again,
     
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    They appear to.

    The Fox coverage talked at, and talked around the Mueller Report. It scrupulously avoided talking about what was in it. And all the Trump surrogates were on tut tutting and pretending that Trump actually was cleared.
     
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  22. PatriotNews

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    Oh too bad nobody ever gets prosecuted for that.
     
  23. PrincipleInvestment

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    Why try again? What have I got wrong? Mueller did not go after Natalia for Trump Tower. Mueller went after Natalia for the work she did with Simpson defending a Russian oligarch. Natalia was permitted by Obama to return to represent that oligarch in federal court. Natalia simultaneously sought a meeting with Don jr. Simpson simultaneously paid Steele and Mrs Ohr to concoct a Russian conspiracy novella. Mueller simply prosecuted the only charge he could support ... 2+ years after the fact.
     
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    Cohen went to jail so your BLOTUS is facing jail time!
     
  25. PatriotNews

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    Nope. Cohen can plead guilty to whatever he wants.

    But Mueller found him innocent, totally exonerated.
     

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