Question about climate change

Discussion in 'Environment & Conservation' started by Ronstar, Feb 27, 2019.

  1. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But it does. Anyone who thinks otherwise is clueless about the topic, and shouldn't be bothering the grownups.

    Here's a clue. You have to correct for all variables before doing the correlation. Your garbage pseudoscience fails to do that, so it comes up with a garbage answer. Back in reality, paleoclimate can't be explained without CO2, so your cult pseudoscience gets laughed at.

    Why didn't your propaganda book say that? Oh, that's right, it's a propaganda book. And you fell for it. Why don't you look at actual science instead of propaganda? If you did, all would become clear to you. Don't be afraid. Your cult can't see what you read. You have the evidence, so educate yourself.
     
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  2. Robert

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    This kind of flaming is purely not needed. It does not sound like science.
     
  3. mamooth

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    No, you've given us propaganda links. That plays well with the rubes, but reason-based people demand actual science. And all the actual science contradicts you.

    Because CO2 isn't the only factor controlling climate. This is middle-school level stuff, and you fail at it.

    The climate should be slowly cooling now. That's the natural cycle, and that destroys your conspiracy theory. If the natural cycle for now is cooling, and instead it's warming quickly, then the warming is obviously not part of a natural cycle.
     
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    The book is fully referenced with peer reviewed papers. You haven’t read it. You have no understanding of global natural history of the Holocene and indeed the entirety of the earth’s natural history.

    Have you read the book and the references ??
     
  5. mamooth

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    Please cease and desist with trolling responses such as that one.

    I was talking about the way paleoclimate can't be explained without bringing CO2 into the equation. If you'd like to talk about that, then do so. If you don't, then keep your trolling to yourself.
     
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    And they don't say what your author claims they do. I know how denier propaganda works.

    I could list many, many books and references, and then stomp my widdle foot and demand you read them. But I won't, because that would be gutless. As I can discuss the topic myself, I do. You can't, so you're reduced to screaming "YOU HAVE TO READ MY BOOK OR I WIN!".
     
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    I haven’t given you any links. Only books which you refuse to read. And these books are fully referenced with peer reviewed papers from NOAA, Science, Nature, ....

    CO2 is not the global warming control knob. Never has been and never will be.

    We should be cooling now ?? Where does that come from ???
     
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    You haven’t read anything. But yet you know what they say ??? Where do the quotes come from ??? Where do they graphs come from ??? Where do the tables come from ???

    What are your top three fully referenced books ???
     
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    It’s clear who is trolling.
     
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    This what alarmists do. When someone points out the fallacies in their positions they lash out with personal attacks and insults. Notice that they refuse to read recommended books but offer none of their own. This is the pattern you see repeatedly on these forums. The same thing is happening on another thread on abortion where they argue that a life isn’t a life.

    All you can do is laugh at their meltdowns.
     
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    Which I plan to keep doing Well said.
     
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    Any thing worth reading on the subject of AGW has to be appropriately institutional backed . That material is available on line. The truth is free and posted. There is no need to go to a library or read your little paperback books and play your little games. Real science that’s been published by NASA is FREE. Most universities and science research institutions in the entire world post access to their departmental studies and references to AGW are on line too. It’s an overwhelming source. You have a question, google it and look for answers from appropriate institutions. Life is simple.

    . Your references are just BS. These books are written by the same crew of deniers that waddle through a cesspool of deniers of evolution and all that crappola simply designed to keep gop followers intellectually inert.
     
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    https://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/csd/pds/ClimateVariability/index.shtml

    There are no fallacies around information from reliable agencies. People’s lives including OUR OWN MILITARY are in the balance every day depending upon their information. They aren’t going to post “fallacies” and lose credibility just to please Trump the fool. They are factual and scientifically supported and have been for decades. These are agencies that have people’s lives are at stake dependent upon their short and long term information. Companies do long term investments all over the world based upon these agencies, like the National weather service, NASA and NOAA
    and the US military.
     
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    trumpets
     
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    It's sad to see a closed mind. But that's the result of faith based thinking.

    BTW where is the discussion of climate and CO2 in the natural history of the earth in your course link. I'd recommend that you go through it. There are discussions of the various cyclical ocean temperature changes which affect both weather and climate.
     
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    Keep the comedy coming.
     
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    3500 universities, all the countries of the world, all our major industries is a closed mind ? What story will you come up with when you’re even fellow deniers at Faux News cave ?
     
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    When will you complete the course ??
     
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    I asked for the list of scientists you allege are in the climate business at NASA.
    When will you supply the list of NASA workers?

    Can you explain why NASA is working to get a satellite up to measure CO2? They wanted a new one up but the launch failed.
     
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    You are not triggered by science at all. You are a political animal.
     
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    Here is why we are doing fine.

    From NASA
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    Find me a university that agrees with you on AGW and stop name calling.
    Find me a majoror research facility that agrees with you and stop name calling.
    Find me country other then Trumperstan that has not signed the Paris Accord and stop name calling.
    Our military agrees with me, not you.
    Your the political hack, not me.
     
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    WOW, you call what I said ....name calling.

    But you then cure the problem doing what?

    Name calling.

    Amazing.

    I do not get led around the nose by you. I called you a political animal due to what you told the forum, Stop saying those things and you will not get called a political animal.
     
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    Here is reading material.....FROM NASA
    YOUR PICTURES MEAN NOTHING.
    https://climate.nasa.gov/
     
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    Just a I thought, no response to my question.
    Find me ANY UNIVERSITY OR climate research FACILITY THAT AGREES WITH YOU.
    Find anything from the aaas, the largest organization of science in the world.
    They all agree with ME, not you Tito.
     

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