Tulsi: Stop Our Elections From Being Hacked

He never was putin's puppet and he has ratcheted up tensions with russia. This was talked about recently, in defense of him being a puppet. Besides sending arms to ukraine, he has raised hell about europe not buying russian fossil fuels, natural gas, but to buy it from us. Russia depends upon that source of income to finance the state of russia. So, surely you understand this is ratcheting up tensions, I would hope. It is economic war.

 

I want single payer, and then the private sector can sell cadillac health insurance. And we will eventually get it. I have little doubt about that, given the huge economic disruption that lies in our future.

 

I know you don't understand this so I will go slowly for you.

Any decision a president makes will piss someone off, nothing will please everyone so therefore anything a president does ratchets up tension somewhere.

If you are using that as your basis for declaring Trump a war mongering president then every single leader in every nation of the world that has ever existed has been a war monger.

 

So you want the government to tell you what is insured and what isn't?

When the democrats are in power abortion will be covered, when the republicans are it won't be.

I can live with that.

 

I want single payer, and then the private sector can sell cadillac health insurance. And we will eventually get it. I have little doubt about that,

I know she is different. And her voting record should show it.

A decision like cutting off russia from selling it oil is bellicose behavior. Arming ukranians, that we helped in their coup, is bellicose behavior. Carter was the only president in recent history that was not a war monger.

Of course trump is acting like a war monger, by setting up an environment that could lead to future wars. Setting the ground work. In other areas he doesn't appear to be one, like in regards to syria.

 

So with your definition, Carter was the only one who didn't set something up.

He actually allowed dictatorships to spring up around the world that other presidents then had to deal with. His non activism caused way more problems then actually dealing with it.

That's hilarious.

Had he dealt with Iran when they took our hostages they may not have pursued nuclear technology leading to what Obama and Trump did.

You just make zero sense here.

 

Or care.

 

The Russian bots make no sense.

 

Apparently they changed your vote to Trump. Try harder next time.

 

If she was the nominee I would support her.

No chance. Insert generic intersectional NPC here instead.

 

The Russian bots and their American minions seem to be slipping this election cycle right across the board.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

 

Agreed. And some of them have become self-aware and think that they're real people.

 

Met her yesterday at Brown, excellent showing. Her honesty just shines. When asked why she would not vote yes on the New Green Deal by members of the Sunrise group, she told them she would not until is addressed where the nuclear spent fuel will be stored. She told them at this time they want to store it on a Indian reservation and the Indians don't want it there. Now that is not what most of those that were there wanted to hear, but she said what she believed. Same with a Student who spoke on behalf of Syrian refugees that fled Assad, She told them you take out Assad, you get Islamic militants that will kill all the Christians in Syria.

 

You mean he allowed? What the hell business is it of ours if Valenzuela, Honduras, Guatemala and Nicaragua go socialist? None all we did was make a shithole of those countries like we made a shithole of the middle east.

Now we got a million of those from central america pounding on our doors every year. People on the right say socialist governments fail on their own, why didn't we just let nature take its course? If Ortega was so bad why the Nicaragua vote him back in after we got rid of him? Let people in their own countries determine how they want to live. Now how much American and Multi-national corporations can make exploiting them.

 

For the simple fact that unrest and uncertainty can spread.

It also effects things like our economy.

It is in our best interest to control the workings of smaller nations because it provides certainty.

You can make the judgement call of whether or not that is morally acceptable but it is just a fact.

We are more stable as a nation the more we can control other nations. That is true for everyone.

The closer a nation is geographically to us the more of an impact any unrest will have on us.

And that is only the first layer, it get's way more complicated after that simplistic explanation.

 

The US is not the world's police man.

 

Please tell me how a million central americans crossing our border every year makes us more of a "certainty"
Please tell me how overthrowing Gaddafi after him giving up his nuclear program made it more of a "certainty"
Please tell me how overthrowing the elected government ti Iran and placing the Shah on the throne and then backing him up in his repressive regime made us more of a "certainty"
Likewise Iraq and Syria.
Yes we had to protect ourselves from El Salvador,
After convincing Gaddafi to give us his nukes then we bomb him as soon as he does, does that give Kim any cause for concern when we ask him to give up his nukes?

This country is much better off after spending 6 trill dollars in the mid east over the last 18 years.

Please tell me why the hell the US put sanctions on Venezuela just because they no longer wanted to share their oil reserves with exxon mobil and BP? How does that Provide "certainity" for our country by plundering another country that gave people in the Northeast free tankers of oil every winter.

 

There are no million illegals crossing our border.

Stop the hysteria.

 

No there are 15 mill illegals that have crossed our border since the time of the Sandinistas. How many more should come before I am allowed to get upset?.

 

He was talking more than one million a year.

The sandanistas were long, long go.

If the GOP would accept the sane Dem borders policy and include punishing business that knowingly hire illegals, the problem would diminish by 90%.

 

The federal government has no such authority to tell a state what kind of voting machines or systems they will use in there elections. That being said this only applies to touch screen machines which are on the way out anyway. According to here, only 12 states do not have a paper trail for all voting precincts. Virginia just went back to paper ballots. Then there is this as far as those machines providing a paper trail as would be required with her bill:

"Touchscreen voting machines — with or without so-called Voter Verifiable Paper Audit Trails (“VVPATs”) — have been a disaster for election integrity because voters cannot know if their vote as recorded inside the machine — where the actual counting occurs — matches their intention or even the wording on the VVPAT. (1) Thus, when election officials and others describe these paper printouts as “voter verifiable,” they lull the country into a false sense of security because the VVPAT itself isn’t actually counted as your vote.

Unlike hand marked paper ballots, VVPATs are counted only if included in a manual audit or manual recount. Given the dismal status of state recount and audit laws, this means that most VVPATs (unlike hand marked paper ballots) are never counted at all. (2)

Even when VVPATs are used in hand recounts or manual audits, there is no way to know which VVPATs, if any, were actually reviewed for accuracy by the voters. Depending on the length of the lines and whether election officials provide instructions, voters may not review them at all. (3) Studies suggest that most voters won’t notice discrepancies even if they undertake such review (which is unlikely) (3,4), and that they won’t start over even if they find a problem (5)."
https://medium.com/@jennycohn1/stat...allot-markers-which-have-all-the-bb6708b9665c

So what everyone needs to do is to get their states to get rid of touchscreen voting. My state uses the optical scanners, I would like them to put in the voting receipt at the time cast so I could review what was recorded but there have been no instances of it being hacked. My son works cybersecurity at NSA and according to him just never let the machines get online then they can't be hacked. We've never had an confirmed case of anyone hacking a voting machine and it giving false results. Machines are calibrated and test ballots run before the election and then again after the election to confirm they were tabulating correctly.

 

I don't care how long ago it was, they are still here taking up services and money that should be going to our native poor and legal immigrants and they are still coming.