I thought ignorance of the law wasn't a defense.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Apr 24, 2019.

  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's very possible he was too stupid in this field to have such intent. Very few people know everything, about everything. Those that claim to be are often called "know it alls" and it's typical to find they really know very little about anything.
     
  2. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It sure looked that way when she was SoS:
     
  3. ImNotOliver

    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2014
    Messages:
    14,692
    Likes Received:
    6,643
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Plus, technically everything is classified. Not classified is a classification. Among classified documents, the vast majority are "confidential". These documents contain no secrets. Typically "secret" and "top secret" documents have custodial requirements. Such documents would never be send via email.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  4. ImNotOliver

    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2014
    Messages:
    14,692
    Likes Received:
    6,643
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oh get over it. I used to think that all conservatives were ignorant liars. But then the more I looked into it, I realized that they were just repeating what had been fed to them.

    I started looking into groups like the Heritage Foundation. I found that they were founded and financed by very wealthy men who inherited their wealth. Their mission was to spread misinformation, and especially misinformation that makes Democrats and liberals look bad. It is why yer average conservative's criticisms of Democrats and liberals tend to be so shallow and at odds with reality.

    Have you ever wondered how the Republican message has managed to stay so controlled?
     
    Derideo_Te and ronv like this.
  5. ChristopherABrown

    ChristopherABrown Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2014
    Messages:
    5,149
    Likes Received:
    175
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    LOL, but the cognitive distortion of labeling is really not right to apply. Misleading is greatly at fault for all parties. Forget parties.
     
  6. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Messages:
    43,110
    Likes Received:
    459
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States or Dallas County.
     
  7. TurnerAshby

    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2017
    Messages:
    8,592
    Likes Received:
    5,189
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Read page 115 and 117 on Glenn Simpson testimony to Congress
     
  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,409
    Likes Received:
    26,536
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    More factual inaccuracies.........the hallmark of a Trumpist.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  9. Jimmy79

    Jimmy79 Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2014
    Messages:
    9,366
    Likes Received:
    5,074
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Isnt this basically the same reasoning Comey used to decide to not charge Hiltery?
     
  10. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,180
    Likes Received:
    62,818
    Trophy Points:
    113
    yep, it's was definitely attempted Collusion, though the Trump team is trying to say attempted Collusion is not Collusion cause they failed at it
     
  11. TrackerSam

    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2015
    Messages:
    12,114
    Likes Received:
    5,379
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You're so laughable. Couldn't prove collusion after spending 35 mil and now you're claiming attempted collusion. Is that even against the law? There is no such crime.
     
    navigator2 and TurnerAshby like this.
  12. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,409
    Likes Received:
    26,536
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I just did. What of it?
     
  13. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,409
    Likes Received:
    26,536
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2019
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  14. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2013
    Messages:
    40,413
    Likes Received:
    15,901
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I have expected it from the very start.

    Recall the Mueller was the one who was brought in to investigate how the NFL handled the Ray Rice case (the one in which he beat up a woman on the elevator on camera and the NFL appeared to do nothing about it.

    Mueller's report then was also inconclusive. It "exhonorated" the NFL, and managed to get them through one of their worst public relations nightmares.

    It was an exercise is seeing and not seeing the obvious, owing to the NFL's sacred cow status in many people's minds.

    The way he handled that case was very similar to what he just did.

    I was only able to find one article about it. I have been continually surprised that so few people brough it up.
    '
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/07/mueller-nfl-probe-rice-goodell-239216
     
    TurnerAshby likes this.
  15. navigator2

    navigator2 Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2016
    Messages:
    13,960
    Likes Received:
    9,411
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We could refer you to Jame's Comey's comments about the stupid assed Skankipotimus. Will that help you?

    willie.jpg
     
  16. TurnerAshby

    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2017
    Messages:
    8,592
    Likes Received:
    5,189
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Where Glenn Simpson says he worked with Natalie Veselnitskaya (adoption lady) and they met the day before and the day after the trump tower meeting.. so this Russian coincidentally worked with Hillary opposition research firm and coincidentally met the day before and the day after the meeting? That sure is a lota coincidences huh
     
  17. TurnerAshby

    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2017
    Messages:
    8,592
    Likes Received:
    5,189
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    ya fusion GPS did collude .... Glenn Simpson says it in his testimony to congress page 115 and 117
     
  18. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2015
    Messages:
    16,275
    Likes Received:
    4,479
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No such crime as "collusion" which is just a layman's word for conspiracy.

    This word game stuff is why I really can't debate people on the left. It's there all the time, whether the subject is "assault rifles" that is a meaningless term, or abortion and they try to claim that a fetus is somehow different from a human, or "fair share" when it comes to taxes.

    Just a huge spray of vagueness, generalities, and word salad fog wherever they are found.
     
    TurnerAshby and navigator2 like this.
  19. HockeyDad

    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2019
    Messages:
    5,267
    Likes Received:
    6,855
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Factual inaccuracies?

    The leading Democratic candidate (Sanders, contradicting centuries of English common law) said:
    http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1904/22/se.03.html

    Regarding children voting, Nancy Pelosi said:
    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/434115-pelosi-says-she-backs-lowering-voting-age-to-16

    Regarding expanding the vote to illegal aliens, Democrats have already done it at the local level in some areas:
    https://www.mysanantonio.com/opinio...to-call-out-sanctuary-cities-for-13789799.php

    You accused me of "factual inaccuracies". I have provided some SOURCED evidence and this is just the tip.... there is a hell of alot more. Where is your evidence of my "factual inaccuracy"? You are denying the words and actions of Democrats when any middle school student with google could prove the assertions that I have made.

    The fact of the matter is that the Democrat's pathetic vote chasing of kids and criminals instead of honest working/middle class folks is revolting. They aren't even pretending to give a **** about everyday workers anymore. And here you are denying that they are doing it in the face of google proving that you are peddling fake news.

    I do appreciate your denials in one regard. They show a sense of shame and guilt on your part for what your representatives are doing. You see it as wrong yourself and so you deny that they did it.
     
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2019
    TurnerAshby likes this.
  20. Pred

    Pred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2011
    Messages:
    24,355
    Likes Received:
    17,350
    Trophy Points:
    113
    She "didn't recall" what she did about 80 times.
     
  21. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Absolute nonsense!

    No one would prosecute on that BIZARRE illogicality and no jury would convict either.
     
  22. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    POST FACTO classifications are IRRELEVANT!
     
  23. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    26,997
    Likes Received:
    11,048
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    She should have known that classified information was going to end up on her server.
    That was just a series of her lies.
    "There was no classified information on the server". Lie
    "The information was not classified at the time" Lie
    "None of the documents were marked classified lie.

    Just a general comment. As a general rule and it almost turns out this way. Material's value as classified diminishes with age, not increases with age. In other words, it just suddenly does not have the need to be classified.
     
  24. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2016
    Messages:
    13,230
    Likes Received:
    2,062
    Trophy Points:
    113
    YEs, the Republicans licked up all the lies, like HILLARY is dying, or keeps falling down. YOUR OPPOSITION research, is repeating the lies you are spoonfed by our nations enemies.
     
    Derideo_Te and Bowerbird like this.
  25. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2016
    Messages:
    13,230
    Likes Received:
    2,062
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So, Hillary MADE me do it, is a valid excuse for crime?
     
    Derideo_Te and Bowerbird like this.

Share This Page