The imperial Presidency

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    Who does Trump think he is kidding?

    No one would be a good answer. Once again, the imperial President is being obvious and foolish while he throws his party under the bus.

    Democratic congressional leaders emerged from a meeting at the White House on Tuesday and announced that Trump had agreed to pursue a $2 trillion infrastructure plan to upgrade the nation’s highways, railroads, bridges and broadband. His highness undoubtedly feels there may be a side benefit to agreeing with the liberals. He is foolish enough to think maybe the Democrats will back off on those silly subpoenas if he pretends to be working with them.

    Pelosi and Schumer were asking for $1 trillion, but Trump upped it to $2 trillion because it was "bigger and better." Why not $3 trillion? Aw, hell, let's make it $4 trillion.

    What does it matter? The Republicans, the ones that control the Senate, were not present at the meeting. Trump's party agreed to nothing and they are not likely to. Trump's acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, is already throwing cold water on the idea.

    “I want to change the environmental laws, how do you feel about that as a Democrat?” Mr. Mulvaney said. “It’s going to be a very difficult place for them to go. I think that may be the place where the discussions break down.”

    That is your typical Trump White House scenario. Trump says one thing. His key advisors say the very opposite.

    Pelosi and Schumer are not fooled by the imperial President's faux generosity, but they are talking it up as though it were real. “We agreed on a number, which was very, very good,” Schumer said.

    That leaves it up to Trump's party's leadership as in Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to put the breaks on this expenditure because the big tax cut significantly increased the federal budget deficit.

    According to the Monthly Treasury Statement for fiscal 2018, the year that just ended Sept. 30, the deficit was $779 billion — a $113 billion, 17 percent increase over the $666 billion deficit recorded last year. This was the biggest one-year increase in the deficit since 2009, when the Great Recession wreaked havoc on federal finances. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...s-soaring-federal-deficits-column/1657338002/

    So, the Democrats are making a lot of noise rejoicing over the imperial President's generosity. The leaves it up to McConnell and others in the GOP leadership to break the unwelcome news to Americans.

    Good move Mr. President.
     
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    For over seven weeks the White House has not held a press conference. In 28 months Trump has held only two full-fledged press conferences. Both were unmitigated disasters for him, and it is unlikely he will hold another. By way of comparison, in the same time frame, Obama had 17, Bush 7, and Clinton 27.

    Trump declared last week that he would challenge "all the subpoenas" submitted by Congress.
     
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    Some of Trump's supporters are really strange.
     
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    You really don't know much about our government, do you? He most certainly does have to answer to Congress and the American people. Oversight role of Congress, separation of powers, co-equals in government are all contained in the U.S. Constitution. You apparently didn't know that.

    You actually believe in the imperial Presidency. Wow! Do you call yourself an American? Where are you from?
     
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    There is no "if" about it.

    For over seven weeks the White House has not held a press conference. In 28 months Trump has held only two full-fledged press conferences. Both were unmitigated disasters for him, and it is unlikely he will hold another. By way of comparison, in the same time frame, Obama had 17, Bush 7, and Clinton 27.

    Trump declared last week that he would challenge "all the subpoenas" submitted by Congress.
     
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    No, he does not have to answer to Congress. The Congress has the option of impeaching him; but that's all they can do if he digs his heels in. The point being that the Executive Branch and Legislative Branch actually are CO-EQUAL. The president's great power? Executive Privilege to deal with a politically hostile Congress.

    Oh, and if you lack the self discipline to refrain from launching ad hominems against me either do not reply to my posts in the future or do grow accustomed to being reported.
     
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    Typically, Republicans in Congress are saying nothing about Trump's 2 trillion dollar expenditure, but they rarely say anything about what Trump does or says. They try to avoid him as much as they can.
     
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    You have never heard of Congressional oversight? You think the only option Congress has in overseeing the President is impeachment? That's nuts.

    I suppose you also support the secret Presidency and Trump's unwillingness to face the free press.

    Aw, quit your whining, geez. Do you know how many ad hominems I get a day? I never cry about it.

    I take it you are not a fan of the truth.
     
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    GOP candidates know that Trump is the mill stone of defeat around their necks next year.
     
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    Oh my, no press conference? Two scoops of Ice Cream?
     
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    Oh, yes, and Trump isn't keen to do anything about it. If anything, he encourages more divisiveness. Have you seen his speech to his adoring admirers in Green Bay? It's enough to make you sick. It's hard to accept that an American President would make such statements.
     
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    If Trump was innocent, he would be cooperating with Congress. He would be cooperating with the media. Instead, he calls the free press the "enemy of the people" and he becomes the secret President. In over seven weeks the White House has not held a press conference. In 28 months Trump has held only two full-fledged press conferences. Both were unmitigated disasters for him, and it is unlikely he will hold another.

    Barr is covering for him. He doesn't want to be questioned by staff counsel, and he refuses to hand over an unredacted copy of the Mueller Report to Congress. Barr is virtually acting as though he were Trump's lawyer.

    Use your common sense. These are not the actions of an innocent President.
     
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    The Secret President and the GOP has crawled in bed with Putin and the Russians.

    The Crimea is firmly in Russian hands, and we are out of Syria for the most part, leaving the Kurds to be annihilated.

    Trump takes Putin's word over the FBI and the intel agencies.
     
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    If Trump were innocent he would be acting in exactly this way.

    You are assuming he is your average politician when he is a atubborn, brash person and when he feels he is on the defensive will not cooperate.
     
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    If you were accused of a crime and you were completely innocent, would you fight the police and the prosecutor every step of the way?

    Or would you fully cooperate to prove your innocence?

    Don't answer to me. Answer to yourself. Did what you say make sense?

    I am assuming Trump has average intelligence.

    I guess I was wrong about that. Obviously, he has limited intelligence.
     
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    Trump's fans didn't want to touch this post. It proves how naive and foolish Trump is. Not a peep from Republicans in Congress. They are just ignoring Trump ... again.

     
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    I think this depends on what the Democrats do.

    If we see the Dems nominate a leftist such as Harris or Warren or a socialists such as Bernie, Trump will win the election.

    If Biden is nominated, he will probably beat Trump.

    But who knows? Me and everyone else were convinced we'd have a horrible four years with president Hillary, and you saw what happened there.

    BTW, did Obama's actions in expanding the strength of the presidency in order to accomplish his goals disturb you? I answered your birther question, so your turn...
     
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    Anyone not disturbed by Bush's unitary executive theory or his abandonment of international treaties against war crimes; anyone not disturbed by Obama's and Trump's use of the EO to expand Presidential power -- these people who support such actions support an imperial Presidency, which is not a good thing for America.
     
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    We agree here, Jake.

    I think you are one of the few here who admits he is disturbed by the actions Obama took.

    You can't support what Trump is doing if you criticized Obama, and visa versa...
     
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    We are seeing a struggle between Executive and Legislative for power, which is part of co-equal branches of government strengthened by checks and balances.

    Both branches, I think, are trying to extend their powers at the expense of the citizens.
     
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    I doubt that will happen. I'm sure you have seen the polls. Biden is becoming more popular. the rest less popular.

    Quite likely. Trump is an albatross around the GOP neck. They will lose a lot more than just the Presidency.

    Yeah, four horrible years with President Trump.

    Pass, this is not about Obama.
     
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    You are quoting a post I specifically directed towards another member, just FYI.

    But you certainly are not going to depend on fake, mainstream media polling again this time, are you Sandy? You saw how badly they erred last time.

    Perhaps. But don't forget Obama, in his first midterm, lost many, many more house and senate seats than Trump did in his first midterm. In fact, Obama lost more seats than any president since the 1930s. Yet he was reelected.

    We've argued this beyond measure, but I still maintain Hillary would have been far, far worse to our liberty, our country and our economy than Trump has been.

    Again, I was interacting with another member. But I'll repeat myself; those who criticize Trump's actions while giving the corrupt Obama a pass are partisan hypocrites who should not be taken seriously...
     
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    Remember that AG that was found in contempt of Congress Congress for not turning over documents about the administration's plan to arm the Mexican Cartels?
     
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    The fake extreme right wing analysis of mainstream is laughable. These 'analysts' continually demonstrate they do not know or do not care about the differences between opinion and predictive polls.

    In fact, Hillary, as predicted, easily won the PV by more than two million votes.

    Fourteen million more voted AGAINST Trump than for him. Since he won by only 77K in three normally blue states, and since he has failed the blue-collar worker in bringing back manufacturing jobs or alleviating white male economic stress, Trump has his work cut out for his electoral changes next year.
     
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    The Dems have no grounds to impeach Trump and their oversight rhetoric is patently baseless because Mueller did not proceed with an indictment.

    Barr is right, as it is now totally his decision to close the investigation.

    To think that the Democrats in the House are going to do better than what 19 cronies couldn't do in two years with unlimited funding is histrionically absurd.


    The real nuclear blast will come in the form of indictments for leaking, unmasking without cause, FISA misconduct, and other forms of bureaucratic misconduct.
    The Obama era corruption is finally going to be outed.
     

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