Donald Trump Revives National Program to Exclude Illegals from Jobs

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  1. doombug

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    Well obama did tell illegal aliens to vote so he was campaigning.
     
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    My dear Americans ... especially the fans of Donald Trump, who cheer him again!

    Now I have to ask quite seriously in the round, why the US since ages demands a work permit of legal immigrants, which is generally called "Green Card"?
    And even "stupid foreigner" knows that the Social Security Number (SSN) is of prime importance to you in the US No ... I'm not defending Obama and his actions that he did back then, what the data theft was and "Fake SSN" and how it should be fought ... or not ... No, that is vitally important and without question this has to happen.

    However, I have to seriously ask why Donald Trump needs two years in office, and all the time he just deals with nonsense nonsense in his "America First" policy ... instead of giving priority to this elementally important problem ... that in some Media named number of 39 million suspected cases as correctly assumed of course.

    It is interesting, however, that with so many things the Americans are deficient in the identity control by means of official compulsory documents and appropriate control, and in the end as a bad problem on their feet. Illegal working, illegal driving, illegal voting, illegal gun purchase ... to name 4 core examples

    Most countries have a whole set of compulsory documents for their citizens that are mostly unknown in the US ... yes, funny ways are also rejected by many extreme righties as superfluous and too much state control. These are at:

    a) National passport - necessary for travel abroad
    b) State identity card - duty to have it with you when you leave the house
    c) State social security card (with photograph and also shows the SSN number) - in many occupations where illegal employment takes place, it is mandatory for them to have them at work
    d) State driver's license, while driving a vehicle duty to carry with him!

    The state authorities as police etc. are always able in controls to determine the identity, even if it is "fake"!
    And as far as illegal employment is concerned, in many countries are, aside other measures to fight this crime of illegal working, also the corresponding notification of SSN number and personal tax number and Tax E-Identification Number of any new worker by the employer to the authorities are obligatory .... so 3 things have to be reported! And out of the tax and other processes and laws, the checking will be done byauthorities automatically too.
     
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    It puts the employer on notice that should his company get raided he is in legal jeopardy
     
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    cute, what job did you do while in college?
     
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    Does none of that
     
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    This is the one of the things that I wish Trump was stronger on. I am a progressive Dem who will vote for Tulsi. She like many other progressives understand that illegal immigration keeps wages depressed. Plus the employers can abuse the illegals- with non overtime work etc.
     
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    Yes it does. It will be one more piece of evidence that the prosecutors will have.

    let the employer on the stand acknowledge that there was an issue and took no action. Looks real good to a jury.
     
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    Guess you didn’t read the info I posted that basically is the opposite of what you claim.
     
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    I think my sarcasm button is broken - damn!
     
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    Of course it does

    He can no longer claim ignorance
     
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    American welfare bums would work also if bleeding heart libs would stop paying them to do nothing
     
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    Ah. And which of the two are being persecuted? Because we certainly know the employers aren't. Illegals working for a Trump property makes front page news...how many Trump managers are in prison? Was the Trump organization fined?
     
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    You know, it's like the punitive tariffs and the trade war with China. Ivanke Trump is proven to produce things in China due to lower costs as if "Made in the US to save US jobs" ... and you can wait until hell freezes until this area of goods, as well others like the stuff from Apple is also subject to punitive tariffs implemented by Trump ;-)
     
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    Read the information provided. It’s a government link. The employer isn’t on the hook for anything.
     
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    Smh. Not worth it ... it's like debating a rock.
     
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    Agreed. And it shows the level of disrespect the family shows to the country - that they can act so hypocritically and not think the American people will see it. Oh - hang on - many among the people don't see it! never mind...
     
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    Goes hand in hand with Trump's increase in tariffs on China -- the re-empowerment of the American citizen working class.
     
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    what a coincidence; there is no express immigration clause, either.
     
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    employment is at-will not for-Cause.
     
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    Yet, the United States of America created Federal immigration laws over the years. Now abide by them!
     
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    Correct and agreed ... because ignorance of unpleasant facts about Trump are a widespread phenomenon among his followers.

    This was wonderful, for example, in another thread to read here in the forum, where was an upset and wondered that because of the whole punitive tariffs not only foreign, imported washing machines for the American citizens and cinsumers became far more expensive, but also American washing machines!
    Funny ... completely incomprehensible and strange that the washing machines are made of steel, on which punitive tariffs are levied and where the US steel industry not only can not cover its own US economy needs for steel = imports continue to be necessary, which are now drastically more expensive ... but where the price of steel rose drastically in general due to the punitative tariffs as a side effect in the US!

    Surprise amazement among Trump fans that steel products are becoming more expensive for the US consumer because of that ... and the said context = Trump's fault is of course a fake news!
     
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    why should i; they are extra-Constitutional. you can't simply "make up" any powers you want.
     
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    Do you feel the same about the over 20,000 Federal, State, and local gun laws????
     
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    States have their Traditional police power and are sovereign. And, why do you believe the police power is unlawful?
     
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    I'm not convinced it is ignorance as much as it is willful ignorance or a lack of caring.

    To be fair, when I admire someone, I'm willing to forgive faults. But I do recognize them, and will admit them - but I choose to forgive them. I only wish that we would see that kind of recognition in this case. The forgiving I can completely understand - but the denial is something else entirely.
     

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