Trump pardons former Army Ranger convicted of killing Iraqi prisoner

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    A naked unarmed prisoner was shot multiple times by his captor after that captor had threatened to murder him. What's the mitigating circumstance?
     
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    No, it would meet the definition of teen hazing.

    Distorting the nature of real torture only encourages more real torture.
     
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    Trump has the right to pardon whom ever he chooses, doesn’t make what Michael Behenna did in Iraq right.
     
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    Ever heard of PTSD? Have you ever people you were responsible for murdered? Have you ever put your LIFE on the line for ANYTHING?

    There is a video of man that murdered the man who molested his son in cold blood. The murderer walked because of the mitigating circumstance of his son being molested.

    The mitigating circumstance in this instance was the murder of this officer's comrades via IED.
     
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    Breaking someone's ankle and beating them so bad they need stitches is "just hazing"?

    Interesting. So next time police arrest you, they can freely break your ankle and you won't have them charged for brutality or torture because its "just hazing" right?
     
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    Not unlike organized RW home grown terrorist organizations such as White Supremacists, Neo-Nazis, and KKK, Retrumplicans have no concept of morality. Rather than change their immoral ideology, they just redefine the meaning of the word.
     
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    Yeah. I served in combat. I never murdered any unarmed prisoners. If he had PTSD so severe that he wasn't responsible for murdering an unarmed naked prisoner, he should have been removed from combat by his command and discharged.
     
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    It will strengthen Trump and further diminish the credibility of the MSM.
    Ordinary Americans will give the soldier the presumption of innocence once they learn that he was denied due process.
     
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    According to Military law, there was. Shooting an unarmed, naked man in custody is murder. Just as you have redefined "morality", you are redefining "murder". Is there a RW version of Webster's available to clear up future confusion as to the interpretation of the English language? SMH
     
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    Did you ever have close comrades murdered in combat? People you really cared about? Were you ever in the position to interrogate the man responsible for their deaths?
     
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    Most white racists and neo-Nazis tilt Left and tend to support Democrats over any Republican for obvious reasons.
    They are especially hostile to Trump. Surely you know that by now.
     
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    What is your evidence that Mansur was responsible for anyone's deaths?
     
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    Without a fair trial the crime of murder remains unproved. Surely you know that.
     
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    Ddyad is operating under the murderer's version of events where the victim reached for the murderer's gun. However, this ignores that Behenna's actions were illegal to begin with. If you are illegally threatening to murder a person and that person tries to defend themselves against you, that does not make it "self-defense" when you follow through with your threat and murder them.
     
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    Aren't these the same people that liberals in Florida want to make sure get the vote back? I saw the WAPO was screaming about it this morning calling republicans who were trying to keep folks who had been convicted of crimes, who, btw, become members of these organizations that you seem really disturbed by, to become card carrying democrats in Florida. Do you guys ever understand how conflicted your party is?
     
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    You failed this during the "hands up don't shoot" narrative as well.
     
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    And he did. The prisoner is in Paradise with his virgins.
     
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    So he did it, but it was justified due to PTSD? The man they murdered was not responsible for the IED attack. A soldier suffering from PTSD to the point he is torturing and murdering POWs does not belong in the service.
     
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    Depending on the circumstances breaking someones ankle would be battery. Should the powder-puff girls have called the UN - The Hague - The ICHR to supervise the game?
     
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    There’s no logical defense of what Michael Behenna did in Iraq. It’s no secret that insurgents had the advantage due to how we had to conduct our Rules of Engagement. If you couldn’t kill insurgents in direct action, you had to detain them, and collect evidence like a cop. Allot of bad guys got off the hook, and allot of innocent people were sent to places like Abu Ghraib.
    These things happen when you send a military that’s not designed to occupy, and run countries. This murder would have never happened, if Bush wouldn’t have sent us to Iraq predicated on a lie.
     
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    Behenna was operating against orders as a rogue entity when he stripped, interrogated, and threatened Mansur with murder. His actions from the start were blatantly illegal. He can't claim self-defense when the guy he was threatening to illegally murder defended himself.
     
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    Are they a government?
     
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    The DP rejects white racism.

     
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    LOL! So, you think that if the USG was sponsoring powder-puff girls touch football the laws of war and the torture ban should apply?
     
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    I think that the UN's laws for torture apply to governments and government entities, of which Behenna was one, albeit a rogue entity operating without legal sanction and against legal orders.
     

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