Electric Car-Owners Shocked: New Study Confirms EVs Considerably Worse For Climate Than Diesel Cars

https://inhabitat.com/8-amazing-homes-that-are-100-powered-by-the-sun/
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/14/hom...-future-and-california-is-inching-closer.html
...and this is still just within the infancy of solar capability...

...and you don't have an idea of what sustainability and efficiency is... ...and don't really grasp innovation, invention, and progression.

 

How much did these homes cost ?? Why aren’t they being sold like hot cakes ??

I’m a retired semiconductor development engineer with my name on 17 patents. What is that you said about sustainability, efficiency, innovation, invention, and progression ???

Without government propping up today’s solar and wind would be niche applications as they should be.

 

Turkey Point Nuclear Generating Station is a twin reactor nuclear power station located on a 3,300-acre (1,300 ha) site two miles east of Homestead, Florida, United States, next to Biscayne National Park located about 25 miles (40 km) south of Miami, Florida near the southernmost edge of Miami-Dade County.

Lets see.... Chernobyl is about 1000 miles in area and Fukashima about 300. Hmm.

 

You're really making this too easy...

"And it seems that fossil fuel companies can't exist without tax breaks and subsidies either...
Again - competing - and yes, the Ohio valley is not Germany or Denmark...
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/...-power-cheaper-ohio-valley-southeast-colorado"

 

You call it AC. I call it commutation.
And with it I can match the motor to the changing loads and speed requirements. Something that takes a lot of electronics for a conventional AC motor.

 

...they aren't? Then why do they exist? I thought you said a home can not be powered by solar... can't win that one, so you deflect...

ZERONERGY
CITY NUMBER OF UNITS
“SACRAMENTO CA” 853
“VANCOUVER BC” 723
“DAVIS CA” 664
“PORTLAND OR” 365
“NEW YORK NY” 361
“AUSTIN TX” 346
“HONOLULU HI” 338
“CLARKDALE AZ” 323
WASHINGTON DC 317
“NATIONAL CITY CA” 268

Congratulations!?! ...but still can't admit when he's wrong...

Without the subsidies and tax breaks that have been laden on the fossil fuel companies since 1916, they would also just be a niche...

 

I see that you enjoy the fiction fed to you by alt-right websites. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/

"Zero Hedge publishes pro-right wing/Trump articles such as Pat Buchanan: “Trump Calls Off Cold War II.” As well as fake news stories regarding liberals: Anti-Trump Protesters Bused Into Austin, Chicago.

Editorial content is written under the pseudonym Tyler Durden and usually focuses on conspiracies related to economic collapse. Zero Hedge sources to factually mixed think tanks such as the The Mises Institute, which promotes Austrian (Anarcho-Capitalism) economics.

A factual search reveals a terrible track record with IFCN fact checkers. There are too many failed checks to list here.
Overall, we rate Zero Hedge an extreme right biased conspiracy website. (8/18/2016) Updated (M. Huitsing 7/17/201"

Okay, now that I've firmly established the fact that 'Zero Hedge' is an alt-right website, their article itself is laughable right on its face. Anyone that knows anything about science could prove them wrong in a nanosecond. Their preposition that C02 is a danger to the atmosphere, is absolutely false.

Their entire argument seems to depend on the assertion that 11 to 15 tons of CO2 was emitted to make one battery pack. There are no facts or figures showing how these figures were derived. They could be total fabrications.

Not only that, CO2 itself is not a pollutant and trying to compare one means of power production to another based on CO2 emissions is an exercise in futility. Someone really hates electric cars and I suspect it's big oil companies that inspired this article.

This would be a more valid and reliable source regarding CO2 emissions. It's a 2017 Swedish 2017 study, which goes into detail on the issues.
https://www.ivl.se/download/18.5922...CO2+emissions+from+lithium+ion+batteries+.pdf

 

You can not say that in general ...

For one thing, the cost of such an investment in countries varies for a variety of reasons ... and even if the same costs, the burden may be different. For $ 10,000 you get a much lower "equivalent" in the US than for the same $ 10,000 in poor El Salvador.

On the other hand, there are also state aids and / or low-cost loans in some countries, if somebody wants to buy such a facility .... in other countries, that does not exist.

In the end it is simply a calculation, after how much time the purchase of the system pays off by a lower electricity bill ... and the result is locally very different.

 

You actually believe what is written in “Inside Climate News” ???

 

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Really, I have been working with T&D and solar for a few decades and I have a very good idea of real world generation delivery and demand, way beyond what you have demonstrated in you previous posts.

You didn't even realize a modern D.C. motor is really an A.C. motor so don't preach any of you misguided T&D sustainability and efficiency ideas to me.

 

Go back and read what I said. You are not being truthful about what I said. Sad actually.

What is the cost of each house?? Why aren’t there booming markets in those areas ??

I’m absolutely correct.

The last paragraph is absurd. Too funny.

 

So looking at your article. Burning about 10 gallons of gas would build you a Tesla battery pack.

 

It doesn't matter... if the motor is DC brushed or DC brushless and controlled by an AC regulator... it only seems to matter in your mind... Over my many years of experience with both internal combustion engines and electric motors, electric motors are far superior in reliability, efficiency, and over all sustainability.

I guess you missed the headline - "Net-Zero Homes Have Arrived - and are shaking up the US housing market"... why do they exist? I thought you said a home could not be powered by solar?

It's absurd to think that a 100 years of subsidies, tax breaks, incentives, corporate welfare, and the blood, sweat and tears of those who are indoctrinated by it, didn't help the fossil fuel industry corner the energy and infrastructure markets.

 

The U.S. has been a leader in this transition. According to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission's (FERC) "Energy Infrastructure Update" (EIU), renewable power sources accounted for half (49.9%) of the 24.6 gigawatts (GW) of new U.S. electrical generating capacity placed into service in 2017. Nearly all of the rest, 48.7%, was new natural gas capacity.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapie...for-most-new-u-s-power-capacity/#655d0f355971

 

The calculation is based on the assumption that the electricity mix used in the battery factory consists of more than half of the fossil fuels. Renewable sources of hydrogen, such as agricultural and waste sites, are increasing, the majority of the hydrogen sourced for fuel comes from traditional natural gas extraction. Still, the impact is still less than gasoline
powered counterparts.

 

Once again you are demonstrating you really don't understand D.C. motors and how they work.

D.C. brushed is high maintenance low effiency and not very reliable, brushless motors or ECM are considerably more efficient and a bit more reliable, the real downside to ECM's are initial cost and susceptibility to surge damage, this problem is compounded with ECM's that have the microprocessor/drivers within the motor housing which is very common, versus having the microprocessor outside the motor which is rare.

I don't know why you keep bringing up internal combustion engines and relating them to ECM, they have nothing in common other than the fact you didn't know what a ECM was until I explained it to you.

Your lack of knowledge of a number of technologies is why you buy into solar, hook line and sinker and why you total fail to understand how to practically deploy solar, which is quite possible but not in the manners you have so far proposed.

 

Which again demonstrates for every watt of solar a watt of conventional must be available to back up the solar.

For the life of me I cannot understand why some proponents of solar which I am cannot understand the sun doesn't shine 24/7 anywhere solar is practical.

Also with solar location can make the difference if solar can even be used, in the Northern regions of the U.S., PV's have to be tilted considerably more than in the Southern regions and this tilt effects the year round effiency of the PV's, and another problem in the North is snow, which collects and freezes to the PV's shutting them down, the only solution to that is to either physically clear the panels, which is not too practical with roof top installations or even ground install's or install panel heaters which cut deeply into the solar budget.

 

I think he compares them because the discussion started about electric vs gas cars.
And of course electric is much more efficient.

 

Again, I use a 350 watt brushless motor kit on my trike, have used it for over 5 years, no maintenance as ever been needed, ...never a car I owned could be said the same. I live on the electric motor... and this post is coming to you via solar and wind DC system... I may not be as learned as you, boss, but I probably have more practical experience using this technology than you do. And it's not only possible, but it is already happening... from the manners I have proposed...

 

Are you going to try and tell me that the only reason we build gas powered power plants is to backup solar?
It's a really simple question.
Why would you build solar if it didn't save you money in the long term?
I mean green is nice, but it looks best on money.

 

Under my state license in the lase decade I have designed and installed nine systems totaling around 60 Kw, the largest was an off grid 15Kw system for Florida Parks and Recreation, how many systems have you designed and installed?

 

You need to explain that to the folks in my neighborhood, 1/3 of the houses are of the grid.

 

The one I personally live on. Have not paid an electric bill in over 5 years, and the cost of replacing the batteries just recently was less than that of a monthly electrical bill. ...and haven't touched a gas pump in over three years...

 

That's part of it, the primary driver however is increasing demand, so they build a blend of solar and conventional, solar to shave the daytime peak from business's and a combination of steam conventional supplemented with NG turbines to handle the peak 4PM to 11:00PM residential peak.

And that residential peak is where EV's could be utilized as well by turning them into vehicles that are also storage, this is something FP&L is trying.

It does save money, but in order for that to happen it must be properly designed and backed up with some form of conventional, most commonly gas fired turbines.