The erosion of trust.

There's no proof that Russia hacked anything.

Stop making crap up.

 

The Dems in Cali obstructed justice when they refused to cooperate in that investigation

 

Like Trump didn't immediately create an election fraud panel? The one Blue States secured courts injunctions to obstruct. Liberal kool-aid is a "gateway drug" ...

 

You're welcome.

 

And that is what your posts are doing here, right now; eroding trust.

 

How has that proved anything? There has not been a complete investigation. We only know what we do not know. We do not know whether there was extensive voter fraud.

 

I'm growing accustomed to, but still alarmed at, Trumpist's denial of objective fact.

 

Once again, thanks for proving my point.

 

Multiple nationwide studies have uncovered only a handful of incidents of non-citizens voting. Based on state prosecution records, votes by non-citizens account for between 0.0003 percent and 0.001 percent of all votes cast. Election officials agree that there is no serious problem of non-citizen voting in our elections. The National Association of Secretaries of State, whose Republican-majority membership includes the chief elections officers of 40 states, said they “are not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by President Trump.”

http://time.com/4669899/illegal-citizens-voting-trump/

 

From Mueller report...

The spearphishing emails contained an attached Word document coded with malicious software (commonly referred to as a Trojan) that permitted the GRU to access the infected computer. The FBI was separately responsible for this investigation. We understand the FBI believes that this operation enabled the GRU to gain access to the network of at least one Florida county government. The Office did not independently verify that belief and, as explained above, did not undertake the investigative steps that would have been necessary to do so. ​

Nowhere in this section of the Mueller report does it say that the GRU was successful in hacking a system. It only says that the FBI "believes" so, but that the FBI "did not independently verify that belief and, as explained above, did not undertake the investigative steps that would have been necessary to do so."

You are the one in denial. You are believing in something that did not occur.

 

Again. How does that prove anything?

They studies were accomplished by checking whether there were reports of voter fraud. If i go into a poll outside of my district and provide the name of someone who has not voted, there would not be a report of voter fraud unless the person I impersonated showed up and probably not even then since it would likely be just written off as a mistake. The only way fraud can be confirmed is to question a sample of voters and ask whether they voted and then compare that against the vote rolls. It has to be a determined effort to verify whether there is voter fraud.

 

So.........despite multiple national studies finding no voter fraud beyond a handful of cases and no evidence of widespread voter fraud ever produced by any entity anywhere in the US..............you're going with "don might be right about millions of fraudulent votes being cast for Hillary." A unsubstantiated claim widely understood to have been made because Don was embarrassed about losing the popular vote.

Vlad and Don...........they couldn't be happier to have you in the fold with the other Trumpists who question the legitimacy of the vote count. For them, it's Mission Accomplished.

 

Nope. It says the "Office" didn't verify it independently.......meaning Mueller's office.

 

Got nothing to do with Trump. I have said for a long time that we should have a complete investigation for voter fraud similar to what I mentioned earlier.

 

Not sure about the rest of the post, time may tell. But, the above is true but 45 is only a puppet.

Are we willing to secure all aspects of our system? Are we capable of understanding the needed functions after being deprived of them for so long?

If the answer is yes, is there a willingness to recognize a solution more reasonable than any other?

 

Who was president in 2016? Why wasn't he ensuring that elections weren't tampered with? I hardly think telling Putin to "cut it out" made him scared enough to stop. Democrats lie, cheat and steal to get what they want like spoiled brats. Democrat states let illegals vote as long as they will vote Democrat. Then they want to whine about so-called voter suppression? Follow the law, people. Get real...

 

What does president trump have to do with the failures of the Obama admin to protect the 2016 election?

Your last paragraph is even more troubling...it sounds like you are advocating for the overthrow of our govt by force...

 

You mean besides the multiple investigations there have already been? What you don't understand is the GOP does not want such an investigation. They want to perpetuate the myth you are perpetuating to justify more attempts to suppress legal voters.

 

Election security is largely handled by individual states. Had Obama tried to impose a more centralized control of elections Repubs would have screamed bloody blue murder.
As it is, when he tried to get GOP congressional leadership to issue a bipartisan warning about meddling McConnell refused to be a signatory.

 

When you have a lawless prez bringing in people willing to support and defend his lawlessness, and duplicitous hacks like Lindsey Graham doing what he can to give cover to the admin and Crooked Donald, we are going to need all hands on deck to put a check on this group of criminals.

 

He issued warnings, he told Putin to “cut it out” his fbi warned the parties...it’s just the dnc and Clinton did nothing and Obama did nothing more then tell him to cut it out. McConnell and the senate have no control over how Obama failed to enforce laws and protect our nation.

 

There has never been investigation beyond reporting what was found by accident. We don't know the extent of voter fraud. I don't know where you get the information that the GOP does not want an investigation. I know I do.

 

And neither did the FBI. The FBI only believes so, not in fact so.

Try to keep up.

 

From what I've seen Lee, the entire cast and crew are a part of a giant theatre that has been a long time in the making.

It truly looks like a change of guard within a group of con artists. Hard to say which is worse, but some of what 45 is doing appears to be things we need done. So the very special puppet he is, which will do things other puppets will not do, others are things we do not want, but may be appeasing factions that normally would be allied against the first mentoned actions.

At any rate, the government fully appears hijacked now, whereas since 1871, the infiltration has been pretty low profile with everything except major, unconstitutional actions only the empire would do, and are the whole point of the infiltration.

Accordingly, the people must act to create a constitutional majority. Of course the public is ignorant of what that is, and divided, but with the proper angle, people just might drop the division in favor of something that allows unity which benefits everyone.

I see that as being based in the most prime constitutional intent and coming from state Citizens creating majorities that then control their state. When 38 states are controlled by their citizens, those states can amend under Article V to empower the Citizens.

Now normally lots of people would be against Article V, for good reasons, but the strategy we need PREPARES to assure that all amendments have constitutional intent as Article V requires. It does this by ending the abridging of the ultimate purpose of free speech and securing the vote. Yea, sounds unlikely, but it really is our only chance and if Citizens understand it, then share it as the real possibility it is, it could happen.

For example:

We can agree on these natural law definitions of the most prime constitutional intent which invokes the ninth Amendment.

1) We have the right to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights.
2) If the framers intended for Americans to alter or abolish then they intended that the ultimate PURPOSE of free speech be to enable Americans to unify under law in order to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights.

The full legal process is here.
http://algoxy.com/law/lawfulpeacefulrevolution.html