China’s hypersonic weapons leave US defenseless, for now

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  1. Mac-7

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    Where did you hear that?

    And who says they cant retarget in flight just because you never saw them do it?
     
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    Retarget based on information from what source? Do you think missile targeting is some magical thing that occurs from the ether?

    Missile targeting requires target data. Target data requires a collection source.

    And I’ve been following the development of Chinese weapons since I was still working in intelligence. These missiles create a sufficient heat plume and radar signature to be tracked by satellites. The Chinese can’t test them without it being seen by outside sources and all of their tests have been against fixed targets.
     
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    They can be used in a conventionsl war as well as a nuclear war
     
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    I agree.
    China has no claims to the US, except trade.
    Russia, on the other hand, possesses lands that china considers to be its own and wants it back.
     
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    Any “conventional war” where they fire these weapons at America will immediately turn nuclear.
     
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    Retargeting based on satalite info

    China has satelites too
     
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    Attacking American warships in asian waters is a possibility with the new hypersonic weapons

    You are being extremely shortsighted
     
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    China does not operate Radar Ocean Reconaissance satellites.

    Targeting based off of imagery satellites means you are shooting at targets minutes or hours out of date. Ships can be dozens of miles out of the target area by then.
     
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    There is zero proof these weapons can even hit ships.
     
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    Trade can be a powerful weapon when wielded by communist dictatorships like china
     
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    And never will?

    How do you know that?
     
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    today is not like pre-wwii, due to globalism any war will be costly for both,there is also escalation of nuke. China/US is not like Soviet/US relationship, china/US economy are intertwined which mean reduce the chance of conflict. even during the height of US/Soviet tension, we never had war. Major power have prox war not direct war with each other.
     
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    There is also zero proof that they cant
     
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    You can’t hide the existence of satellites that scan the ocean using radar.

    When China starts launching RORSats, then maybe your scare-mongering will have a point eventually.
     
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    There is zero proof China can’t instantly kill all of America at will by using magic to summon demons. Quick! Spend billions of dollars to protect against that!
     
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    any Russia land is inconsequential to china these day, not only they solve border issue long ago, but they both face US. hence China/Russia will not jeopardize their relationship. also china can simply lease land from Russia, they are doing that right now.
     
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    China is a greater threat to the US than the soviet union ever was
     
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    How exactly? Speak in real terms and not hyperbolic “my stock portfolio full of military-industrial complex securities needs a boost” terms.
     
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    When china deploys a hypersonic weapons system it will be far too late for you to take it seriously
     
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    Because weapon systems magically spring into existence with no lead-up time or development/deployment process?

    Question: have you ever served in the military or in intelligence or have you ever worked on the development of a weapon system for the military?
     
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    China is much more economically powerful than the soviets were and cand challenge us in ways the soviets could not

    We can lose the competition with china without a nuclear war
     
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    Prove that China is more economically powerful than the Soviets were in real, inflation-adjusted terms.
     
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    The lead time you speak of is happening now

    And you are sleeping through it

    That is not important and none of your business

    Known security experts are worried and so should you be
     
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    It’s not happening now. China is only developing land attack versions of their hypersonic missiles now. They haven’t even started testing on anti-ship versions.

    Translation “No, I have zero real world experience with weapons development or any of the technologies involved and I’m hyping hypobole with no justification”.

    Are those “known security experts” guys who work for think tanks associated with and paid for by the MIC?
     
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    The soviets never had a $350 billion trade surplus with the US

    The soviets were never able to challenge America economically

    China can
     

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