Chomsky BRILLIANTLY Dissects Trump, Democrats & RussiaGate

You can't unite a nation divided by identity politics. Identity politics is the great divider of our time, and no single entity divides us more than the party that embraces identity politics.

 

Isn’t it funny how leftists preach diversity but always fall back on old white guys for arguments.

 

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You are spot on.

 

My God! How old is Chomsky?

It's always difficult to agree with everything that Chomsky says. But nobody can deny that he's one of the most brilliant and insightful people out there. If not the most....

He is absolutely right. Why are we talking about Russia interference, when Netanyahu's interference in our elections has been hundreds of times more brazen?

 

I don't know what Netanyahu's interference actually consists of. What has he been up to, exactly?

 

I get it, all the problems in the world were caused by liberals. he he.

If my business is flourishing, why would I pay more. I wouldn't call up the electric company and tell them, "I've been having a great year, I think I'll pay at a higher rate. Business profitability is money in, money out. If I have four employees, and buy a machine that allows two to do the work of four, than I have doubled my productivity. And it the machine allows person of lower skill levels, then I can pay less for labor, even further increasing my productivity.

Under Reaganomics, almost all the benefits go to those who are benefiting from productivity increases. The people are being left without.

 

What Chomsky referred to in the video. His open campaign against Democrats. His anti-Obama speech before Congress was obvious interference.

 

It is far from the same kind of thing the Russians have been up to. Putin paying a visit to Congress to make a pro-Trump speech would be a laugh. His inundating us with disinformation, stolen emails and trolls, and trying to co-opt the NRA and other conservatives, stir up extremist groups, suppress voting and otherwise interfere with our society and politics through underhanded means is infinitely worse. It is hostile action with an intent to harm this country, not a foreign leader paying a visit and delivering a speech.

I don't know why our government is so pro-Israel and allows even that much to go on. I find it strange and do not approve of it. But there is no way I would put it at the same level as the Russian government's subvertive, hostile, destructive efforts.

 

The party that has actually embraced identity politics is the GOP!

Members of the GOP identify their fellow black Americans as "thugs".

Members of the GOP identify their fellow Hispanic Americans as "illegal immigrants, rapists and drug dealers".

Members of the GOP identify their fellow Democratic Americans as "socialists, communists and gun grabbers".

It is the GOP that is dividing our nation using "identity politics".

 

I'm quite certain that the US support for Israel has more to do with the book of Revelations than anything else.

 

I just explained to you the main causes of

hogwash... you couldn’t refute any of the facts and arguments i laid out. Your core argument is also so far removed from reality that it’s laughable. You are basically saying that when business flourishes, it doesn’t help workers... that’s a novel idea. Maybe we should try economic policies that crush business... bright idea.

And anything to refute on my arguments regarding free trade, illegal immigration and increase in racial wealth since the expansion of welfare in 60s? Guess not...

 

The main reason Hillary lost it is that the DNC got caught red handed cheating on Sanders and rigging Dem primaries in Hillary's favour.Quite a lot of Bernie's supporters didn"t cast their votes.Enough for Trump to win.Anyone with modicum of intelligence understands this.Of course, three years later there are still some useful idiots who keep posting same old nonsense about Russians and their influence.Beggars belief.

 

It is a hostile action, but it targets those who would vote for Trump anyway. Trump stirs up extremist groups much more effectively than Russians can. Netanyahu targets and misinforms a different type of voters. We perceive that what the Russians do is worse only because the group they target is "the bottom of the barrel" of the worst. But they are Trump's base already. Netanyahu attempts to expand from that base. They are both hostile actions with the intent to harm this country. But Netanyahu is much more effective at it.

I think our government should be anti-extremists. Wherever those extremists are. Right now the extremists are in power in Israel, and we should not be supporting them. But when more moderate forces are in power, we should support them fully. The same goes for Palestine authorities and all other parties in the conflict.

 

Members of the GOP rightfully identify thugs as thugs, illegal immigrants as illegal immigrants, rapists as rapists, drug dealers as drug dealers; and socialists, communists, and gun grabbers as socialists, communists, and gun grabbers.

Democrats, on-the-other-hand, divide American citizens into black, white, brown, male, female, rich, poor, Hispanic, Asian, native, and about every other divide one can think of, including the alphabet soup divides. That is how Democrats divide America, and why America is so divided today.

 

Thank you for proving my point about the GOP to be 100% accurate.

 

Yes I know, the GOP is 100% accurate in its descriptions, and the Democrats are 100% divisive in their descriptions.

Just out of curiosity, how is it that you think calling an illegal immigrant an illegal immigrant is anything other than the truth? And how can America ever be united if the left keeps dividing it up into race, gender, age, etc? Things we have no control over, and which serves only to further divide the country.

I liked how Howard Schultz phrased his position on race. He said "I don't see color". I also liked how he said that he didn't leave the Democratic party, the Democratic party left him. If your true interest is in uniting America, you'd see it the same as Schultz.

 

Just the ones that are. You're the one that labels them as "Hispanic", not the GOP, and that's how you divide America.

 

Extended version of what I call the "anarchy fallacy" where any complaint about the size, power and costs of government, including tax rates, are met with inanities ala "but government/taxes are necessary!"

Not surprised poster repeats it over and over in the post.

 

The GOP disingenuously identifies ASYLUM SEEKERS as "illegal aliens".

Evidence for that can be found in the GLARING ABSENCE of the use of the term asylum seekers and instead the dishonest identification of them as "illegal aliens".

The GOP is 100% to BLAME for the DIVISIVE "identity politics" that they are disingenuously try to blame the Dems for doing.

 

Bovine excrement content duly noted for the record.

The GOP doesn't even try to differentiate. To them ALL blacks are "thugs" and ALL Hispanics are "illegal aliens".

 

Chomsky is not of my political ilk, but we have exchanged emails from time to time and he is probably one of the most well read individuals on the planet.

Many legitimate criticisms of him, not having the know-how is not one of them.

More likely you two just disagree.

 

Chomsky falls into this demographic!

https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/9/18174631/old-people-fake-news-facebook-share-nyu-princeton

 

Chomsky literally wrote the book on fake news.

https://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499

Is it so hard to admit you might just have a disagreement? Why does it have to be he is ill-read or a senile old fool? You do realise people respectfully disagree from time to time, right?

 

Your asinine strawman duly noted for the record and ignored for derogatory reasons.

Even Chomsky has his own biases just like everyone else and is susceptible to having them exploited.

In this instance he is downplaying the influence of the Russians either because he does not understand how they achieved what they did or his biases have been influenced by disinformation.

Neither of those comments detract from what Chomsky has achieved.

They are just observations given that the Russians exploited social media in a manner that was exceptionally subtle while also being highly effective. To fully understand how they did it requires a great deal of knowledge of BOTH the TECHNOLOGY and human psychology in order to promote what passes for credible propaganda.

The Russians are actually way ahead of the West in this regard. That Chomsky is unaware of this is the norm given that the vast majority of people still have no idea how it is being used.

 

Your asinine deflection duly noted for the record and ignored for derogatory reasons.

As per usual.